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uponit7771

(90,339 posts) Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:14 AM Mar 2020

Wait, does the president have the authority to keep people on a ship ?!

Wait, does the president have the authority to keep people on a ship ?!

3400 people need to go back to business's, work, hospitals for treatment, kids etc etc ...

Under what law is he keeping people on a ship without them being administered a test ?!

Trump and the CDC have screwed up the testing by a gob smacking amount in the US ...

WTF?!

Thx in advance for your input.

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Wait, does the president have the authority to keep people on a ship ?! (Original Post) uponit7771 Mar 2020 OP

How is every aspect of this virus getting worse by the hour?😳 dewsgirl Mar 2020 #1

FDR kept Jewish refugees out of the USA who were coming by ship during WW2: mucifer Mar 2020 #2

But these aren't refugees they are citizens of this country... Luciferous Mar 2020 #10

I caught that too GusBob Mar 2020 #3

Do you see the rationale that is the cousin to racism? Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #6

It is an interesting dynamic yes GusBob Mar 2020 #9

That rounds it up better. Trump can even be biased against his own people, if they Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #11

+1, uponit7771 Mar 2020 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #4

This will probably be the peak of the Trump's lifelong grifter run with wealth and power. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #17

He'll retire to a nice dacha on the Crimean peninsula. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2020 #19

There is NO LAW..... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2020 #5

Gotta keep thems numbers down for those who have the virus.... magicarpet Mar 2020 #8

IKR !?!?! On live TV uponit7771 Mar 2020 #14

"I like the numbers where they are" central scrutinizer Mar 2020 #13

THIS !!!! uponit7771 Mar 2020 #15

Is this the same ship that has the cancer patient on it? Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #16

Here is how it works: Trump does something disgusting and illegal and improper librechik Mar 2020 #18

Not having the authority is a concept that Chump doesn't understand. Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #20

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)

1. How is every aspect of this virus getting worse by the hour?😳

Reply to uponit7771 (Original post)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:18 AM

Mar 2020

Everywhere I turn, it's always worse.

mucifer

(23,542 posts)

2. FDR kept Jewish refugees out of the USA who were coming by ship during WW2:

Reply to uponit7771 (Original post)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:19 AM

Mar 2020

https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/DrLItq4lLtE_P2Wxkkegkpnc-G4=/800x600/filters:no_upscale()/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-government-turned-away-thousands-jewish-refugees-fearing-they-were-nazi-spies-180957324/

Absolutely horrific. FDR believed the refugees could be spies so lots of innocent people died because they were forced to go back to Europe.

People need to understand not everything about FDR was great.

Luciferous

(6,079 posts)

10. But these aren't refugees they are citizens of this country...

Reply to mucifer (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:04 AM

Mar 2020

GusBob

(7,286 posts)

3. I caught that too

Reply to uponit7771 (Original post)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:27 AM

Mar 2020

He implied they needed his permission

He also said " it's not our fault" they have a virus

Which implies all the other cases are his fault

If I was on that ship right now I would be seething at Trump

And when they do get off and vent at Trump, I bet they get death threats

Baitball Blogger

(46,706 posts)

6. Do you see the rationale that is the cousin to racism?

Reply to GusBob (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:54 AM

Mar 2020

They compartmentalize people. In one group are the people that form their identity tribe. In all the other compartments are people that they can dehumanize or dismiss.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)

9. It is an interesting dynamic yes

Reply to Baitball Blogger (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:02 AM

Mar 2020

Some Drs are saying that ship is like an experiment for the virus, to see how its spread. A floating petri dish, if you will

On the other hand, the social aspect, of those 3400 people some must be Trumpers. Now he is saying: I dont want you folks to ruin my ratings!
And now they are twice pariah.

And yes you are spot on, all the other Trumpers hate those passengers now. They present a threat to their leader

Baitball Blogger

(46,706 posts)

11. That rounds it up better. Trump can even be biased against his own people, if they

Reply to GusBob (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:16 AM

Mar 2020

get in his way.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)

12. +1,

Reply to GusBob (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:27 AM

Mar 2020

Response to uponit7771 (Original post)

democratisphere This message was self-deleted by its author.

Baitball Blogger

(46,706 posts)

7. This will probably be the peak of the Trump's lifelong grifter run with wealth and power.

Reply to democratisphere (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:56 AM

Mar 2020

It will all be downhill for them after January 21, 2021.

Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #7)

democratisphere This message was self-deleted by its author.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)

19. He'll retire to a nice dacha on the Crimean peninsula.

Reply to democratisphere (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:09 PM

Mar 2020

Borscht-a-Lago.

Putin will supply his "secret service" minders.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)

5. There is NO LAW.....

Reply to uponit7771 (Original post)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:32 AM

Mar 2020

Preventing people from disembarking. Some passengers are concerned running out of Insulin, medications, etc. What of those people? Trump could care less.

They will remember what this awful man said, how he treated them so he does not look bad as he boasts that the US has the LOWEST number of people imfected. The US media must stay on this.

magicarpet

(14,150 posts)

8. Gotta keep thems numbers down for those who have the virus....

Reply to uponit7771 (Original post)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:59 AM

Mar 2020

It makes the pee-resident's numbers look so good, accomplished and effective leadership don't cha know.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)

14. IKR !?!?! On live TV

Reply to magicarpet (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:35 AM

Mar 2020

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)

13. "I like the numbers where they are"

Reply to uponit7771 (Original post)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:33 AM

Mar 2020

He actually said this! I can’t imagine a more callous, venal, deplorable response.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)

15. THIS !!!!

Reply to central scrutinizer (Reply #13)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:47 AM

Mar 2020

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)

16. Is this the same ship that has the cancer patient on it?

Reply to uponit7771 (Original post)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:53 AM

Mar 2020

I cannot imagine the OUTRAGE I would be experiencing if that were MY wife who couldn't get her cancer treatments because of this FUCK UP.

edit for grammar

librechik

(30,674 posts)

18. Here is how it works: Trump does something disgusting and illegal and improper

Reply to uponit7771 (Original post)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:52 PM

Mar 2020

Of course! he has that power (he claims)

And it's up to us to try to stop him.

We have not had a lot of success trying to stop him.

So, can he do what he's doing to the cruise ship? He's doing it. So, it doesn't matter.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)

20. Not having the authority is a concept that Chump doesn't understand.

Reply to uponit7771 (Original post)

Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:31 PM

Mar 2020

He's PRESIDENT, by God! That means (in his warped mind) that he has authority over everything.

As serious as this is, I'm really more concerned about Chump "not having the authority" to rule over the Senate, the House. the Supreme Court, the FBI, etc., and yet he commandeers whatever the hell he wants, when he wants.

Maybe, at last, he's met up with his comeuppance.

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