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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:08 AM Mar 2020

A quick reminder that the only way to lose money on a long-term investment account is to sell now

If you want some unsolicited financial advice, forget that you have an IRA or 401K for the next few weeks. Just pretend it's not there. The only way these things become money losers is if you sell during a panic. Don't.

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A quick reminder that the only way to lose money on a long-term investment account is to sell now (Original Post) Recursion Mar 2020 OP
Unless you bought at a much lower level, and you want to cut your losses. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2020 #1
If you bought at a lower level, you have no losses to cut Recursion Mar 2020 #3
We're on the same page. Turn off your TV and don't check your accounts every five minutes. NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2020 #4
Bingo (nt) Recursion Mar 2020 #7
I went back and clarified what I should have said the first time. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2020 #10
'The Fundamentals of The Economy are Strong' denem Mar 2020 #2
I just hope my bond funds stay ok! Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #5
watch what the fund managers are doing, believe me they aren;t sitting around watching beachbumbob Mar 2020 #6
4 or 5 generally Recursion Mar 2020 #9
The best managers know how to manage short term turbulence Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #20
It's really hard to watch janterry Mar 2020 #8
Best thing to do safeinOhio Mar 2020 #11
Market is still historically high, so going to safer haven now isn't a bad idea for some wishstar Mar 2020 #12
Excellent observations. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #21
Good advice, except snowybirdie Mar 2020 #13
I almost had a panic attack in 2008 seeing my investments tank StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #14
Told many a client that. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #15
If I called today and my broker wasn't answering - Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #22
As a sports bettor I enjoy days like this Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #16
I bet against Filthy Donnie. Figured the Obama economy ended in Squinch Mar 2020 #17
If some of your portfolio is in cash, so much the better. DinahMoeHum Mar 2020 #18
Same advice I gave my daughter. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #19
We are in it for the long haul, as we have always been, and phylny Mar 2020 #23
Thanks Recursion. That's exactly what we're doing. Greybnk48 Mar 2020 #24

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
1. Unless you bought at a much lower level, and you want to cut your losses.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:10 AM
Mar 2020

I should edit "and you want to cut your losses." to and you want to avoid further declines." Thanks for pointing that out, Recursion.

I see AAPL dropped $40 per share last week. At its current level, it could still be selling for a lot more than some investors paid for it.

Hang on or sell? It's not my call.

I'm holding on.

THIS IS NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
6. watch what the fund managers are doing, believe me they aren;t sitting around watching
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:13 AM
Mar 2020

capital drain away.

The typical blah blah to the masses, is stay put all will be well. when in 20years?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. 4 or 5 generally
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:13 AM
Mar 2020

A broadly diverse stock portfolio has never lost money over a 5-year window. Which is why I'm talking about retirement accounts.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
20. The best managers know how to manage short term turbulence
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:26 AM
Mar 2020

Sometimes that means sell, sometimes that means hold. That's a reason to invest in a fund (and hold through turbulence unless you are retiring in the next ~5 years), rather than individual stocks: Unless it is your profession, the average investor does not have the experience to know how to move within the turbulence. It's a bit like trying to take over the wheel of a race car when you're used to Sunday driving. You pick your driver based on past history and let them drive.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
8. It's really hard to watch
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:13 AM
Mar 2020

I have someone who takes care of my investment accounts and I trust him. I'm sure that things will be okay - eventually.

But this is so hard to watch (and I just can't help but watch).

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
12. Market is still historically high, so going to safer haven now isn't a bad idea for some
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:15 AM
Mar 2020

especially for anyone who will need to use their funds in next couple of years.

For people in individual stocks, they need to carefully study their options as some companies are more vulnerable to bankruptcy and not recovering well while other companies will be resilient and safely poised for recovery.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
21. Excellent observations.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:32 AM
Mar 2020

I'm on the cusp of needing to pay attention - my retirement is between 5 & 10 years away. We've got enough income guaranteed (defined benefit plan + Social security), and miminal expenses until we choose to pick up more (mortgage is paid off) - so I've decided it's OK not to look.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
14. I almost had a panic attack in 2008 seeing my investments tank
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:23 AM
Mar 2020

Fortunately, I didn't act on my panic, as much as I wanted to.

My concern now is for older retirees who don't have time to ride it out, but need the money now. I hope they don't freak out and take it all out and try to put it somewhere "safer," but instead, just take out what they need for day-to-day expenses and let the rest stabilize and start to rebuild.

gibraltar72

(7,503 posts)
15. Told many a client that.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:26 AM
Mar 2020

Had some bad days explaining to them it was just a paper loss. Never saw anything like this though. I'm sure a few brokers aren't answering their phones today.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
22. If I called today and my broker wasn't answering -
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:34 AM
Mar 2020

He wouldn't be my broker.

(That said, we have an agreement - he knows I don't panic, so he doesn't waste his time calling me on days like today so that he can spend time calming investors who need it more.)

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
16. As a sports bettor I enjoy days like this
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:27 AM
Mar 2020

It is more what I am accustomed to...losing everything or doubling your money.

Now I'm heavily in the stock market but the daily 3 or 4 tenth moves are kind of boring.

There should be a circuit accelerator, that every day has to move up or down at least 7%

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
17. I bet against Filthy Donnie. Figured the Obama economy ended in
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:54 AM
Mar 2020

Feb 18, put my money in super safe, low yield places. I'm ahead now of where I would have been if I stayed in, even through all that rise.

When Joe has been in for a while, I'll put my toe back in the water.

Republicans dependably trash the economy. This is going to be my method of investing from now on: out for Republicans, in for Democrats.

DinahMoeHum

(21,784 posts)
18. If some of your portfolio is in cash, so much the better.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:17 AM
Mar 2020

You're in a better position to add to your positions and buy other items later on - but not now, as the knife is still falling.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
19. Same advice I gave my daughter.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 11:22 AM
Mar 2020

Just don't look now - you've got plenty of time to recover before you need it for retiring. All that selling now will do is to cement your loss.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
24. Thanks Recursion. That's exactly what we're doing.
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:11 PM
Mar 2020

As a matter of fact, I have not even peeked at our numbers in over a week and I'm not going to check until this is over, (one way or another).

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