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lame54

(35,287 posts) Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:24 PM Mar 2020

Need an answer to the # of flu deaths per year

Several at work are using that reasoning to dismiss this virus

I do not have a comeback for them

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Need an answer to the # of flu deaths per year (Original Post) lame54 Mar 2020 OP

Google it! nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #1

CDC - between 12,000 - 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 csziggy Mar 2020 #2

35K, There's no antiviral or vaccine for CV19 there is one for flu. Infection rate of CV19 is higher uponit7771 Mar 2020 #3

Then ask them if they have the GUTS to get on a cruise ship Bengus81 Mar 2020 #4

Shift the discussion to death rate. For flu, it's .01% Kaleva Mar 2020 #5

There's a vaccine for the flu. That gives us some control over it. Jim__ Mar 2020 #6

There are also season to season immunities NewJeffCT Mar 2020 #7

Experts: 10x flu mortality. Estimating 500k to 1 million deaths. Claritie Pixie Mar 2020 #8

They are not interested in estimates or predictions... lame54 Mar 2020 #9

Unfortunately, facts may not help people who are saying that. Claritie Pixie Mar 2020 #10

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)

1. Google it! nt

Reply to lame54 (Original post)

Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:31 PM

Mar 2020

csziggy

(34,136 posts)

2. CDC - between 12,000 - 61,000 deaths annually since 2010

Reply to lame54 (Original post)

Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:32 PM

Mar 2020

CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)

3. 35K, There's no antiviral or vaccine for CV19 there is one for flu. Infection rate of CV19 is higher

Reply to lame54 (Original post)

Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:34 PM

Mar 2020

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)

4. Then ask them if they have the GUTS to get on a cruise ship

Reply to lame54 (Original post)

Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:38 PM

Mar 2020

or travel to China if they really think that the CV and the flu are not that much different. Or hell,tell them to contact Ted Cruz who's probably scared out of his mind about now.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)

5. Shift the discussion to death rate. For flu, it's .01%

Reply to lame54 (Original post)

Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:39 PM

Mar 2020

Covid-19 is 20 times greater then that.

Jim__

(14,075 posts)

6. There's a vaccine for the flu. That gives us some control over it.

Reply to lame54 (Original post)

Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:44 PM

Mar 2020

Right now, there is no vaccine for this virus and no good way to control it. Control is going to be based on individual behavior to help prevent the spread. If people don't take it seriously and don't behave accordingly, we will completely lose control of this virus.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)

7. There are also season to season immunities

Reply to Jim__ (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:45 PM

Mar 2020

built up within our bodies over the years of our lives.

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)

8. Experts: 10x flu mortality. Estimating 500k to 1 million deaths.

Reply to lame54 (Original post)

Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:51 PM

Mar 2020

This is the info already given to hospitals to prepare for what's to come.

lame54

(35,287 posts)

9. They are not interested in estimates or predictions...

Reply to Claritie Pixie (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 9, 2020, 01:56 PM

Mar 2020

The flu comparison is their firewall

How do we break through that

So far none of these answers apply

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)

10. Unfortunately, facts may not help people who are saying that.

Reply to lame54 (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 9, 2020, 02:04 PM

Mar 2020

Influenza is a known pathogen, we have a vaccine, rapid in-office testing and anti-virals to treat it if caught early. We know how to manage it, yet that many people still die. We can't stop its cyclical nature so we live with it.

COVID-19 is an emerging pathogen, totally unrelated to Influenza. From what we know so far, has a higher mortality rate and more contagious. No vaccine. No treatment.

Not sure what else - it's really like comparing apples to oranges.

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