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Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan has gotten in hot water before for criticizing President Obama for the very same defense cuts that he voted for in 2011. When confronted with this incongruity today on Face The Nation, Ryan simply denied that he ever voted for the cuts, telling an incredulous Norah ODonnell that he didnt actually vote for the cuts hes on record as voting for:
RYAN: No, no I have to correct on you this, Norah. I voted for a mechanism that says the sequester will occur if we dont cut $1.2 trillion in government. We can get into this nomenclature; I voted for the Budget Control Act. But the Obama Administration proposed $478 billion in defense cuts. We dont agree with that, our budget rejected that, and then on top of that is another $500 billion in defense cuts in the sequester.
ODONNELL: Right. A trillion dollars in defense spending, and you voted for it!
RYAN: No, Norah. I voted for the Budget Control Act.
ODONNELL: That included defense spending!
RYAN: Norah, youre mistaken.
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ODonnell is, in fact, not mistaken. The Budget Control Act, as passed, included both the roughly $600 billion in sequestration cuts that will happen if theres no compromise on the budget by December as well as the $487 billion of military-supported cuts that will take place regardless. The fact that Ryan may have wished that the bill didnt contain said defense cuts does not absolve him of the fact that he and 201 other Republicans voted for the bill as-passed.
Moreover, Ryans statement after voting for the bill contained not a single word of criticism about the defense cuts. As ODonnell correctly noted, Ryan said the bill represents a victory for those committed to controlling government spending and growing our economy and that The agreement while far from perfect underscores the extent to which the new House majority has successfully changed Washingtons culture of spending. Its at best misleading, and at worst an outright lie, for Ryan to assert that voting for the Budget Control Act did not mean voting for defense cuts.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/09/09/816861/ryan-i-didnt-vote-for-the-defense-cuts-i-voted-for/
randr
(12,412 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)So, your marathon time was two hours and fifty-something??? Or did the records get it wrong?
BumRushDaShow
(129,059 posts)he would have let him go with the lie. At least O'Donnell doubled back on it and called him on it.
liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)Maybe it is possible that he thought that he was voting for a blind mans bluff and nothing would happen because of it. Maybe it is possible that he didn't know there was defense cuts in the bill. If that is the case, he shouldn't be in office.
But in actually, I believe he knew, and thought that the President wasn't serious.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)nenagh
(1,925 posts)I'm wearing the thousand(s) dollar suit and coordinated tie... Look at me! I have the power, I'm the male...
I'm right & you are wrong...
Go Norah! stand up for women everywhere...
and stand up for the truth.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)I see no reason to cloud the issue of his pathological lying with a bizarre tangent into sexism.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)This man could not tell the truth if he was wired up to a machine that would electrocute him if he lied....
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Biden Is going to eat him alive with all these obvious lies.Biden won't back down.
budkin
(6,703 posts)Ryan is such a lying piece of shit.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)So now his presidential running mate is mistaken, too? Way to go, Paul!
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)CrispyQ
(36,470 posts)Q. How can you tell when Paul Ryan is lying?
A. His lips move.
It's pathological with this guy.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)he probably lied to us about that too.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I want to see HIS friggin' birth certificate!
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)This is weirder than 'he voted for them before he voted against them.' I'm confused.
jsr
(7,712 posts)The Wizard
(12,545 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,299 posts)...Morgan Fairchild. Yeah, that's the ticket.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Makes no sense.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)"I use big words so you'll think I am smart. Is it working?"
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Legalisms do not impress independent voters.
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)She's an egotistical ignoramus, but Ryan is a pathological liar. The GOP has never been so scary.
drynberg
(1,648 posts)We gotta make hay on such a large smelly sticky sack o' shit that Mr. Paul lays out with Ms. O'Donnell. The RR boys gotta pay for all their friggin' deep lies...the voters need to know that they just can't be trusted.
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)But they do.
We see it over & over again.
People get most of their 'facts' from their friends or take the word of the media source who reports.
I hope people would at least do a quick Wikipedia check & find the truth.
If sourced & trackable, you can go to the bank on it.
But most people won't even do that & he knows it.
So he confuses the issue. "You're mistaken," he says.
No Ryan, you're LYIN'!
Let's get to November & cancel these suckas out! Damn!
John Lucas
If Ryan flips..... While Mitt flops are we still stuck with either of them?