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redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:00 AM Mar 2020

It is really fascinating in a way: Coronavirus challenges the basic assumptions of western society.

If there is a single theme that underlies most modern capitalist nations it is the importance of productivity. We value "work ethic" above all else, are trained to be competitive, overcome challenges, to be innovative and that economic growth is paramount. We are taught that the world should be interconnected and celebrate the fact that we can travel across the globe in a matter of days. These things are hard-wired not only into our cultural norms, but into every contract and obligation (work oriented or otherwise) that we entered into. And now we are faced with a situation where there is nothing we can do.

And I mean this in a positive sense: The answer to the current crisis is literally to "do nothing". Stay at home, get some rest, limit work and shopping to the bare essentials, spend some time with your family, limit exposure to other people, have a cup of tea and just wait. Do nothing and wait for it to pass. This is not something we can "beat".

The question is whether our economic system is able to do that. Are we prepared to collectively just sit things out, or does our system collapse like a house of cards if it is not able to keep "being productive" and expanding exponentially.

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It is really fascinating in a way: Coronavirus challenges the basic assumptions of western society. (Original Post) redgreenandblue Mar 2020 OP
Hopefully the crisis doesn't interfere with our electricity, phone, internet and cable wishstar Mar 2020 #1
I had a disturbing thought a few days ago Danascot Mar 2020 #2
Well, they are based heavily on automated systems... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #3

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
1. Hopefully the crisis doesn't interfere with our electricity, phone, internet and cable
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:29 AM
Mar 2020

and hope those who provide essential services aren't overwhelmed and unable to respond well to other medical, weather and criminal emergencies that arise.

But many in our society have livelihoods that depend on nonessential commercial activities involving travel and entertainment and consumerism that will be halted or curtailed so there will major repercussions economically as businesses close and people can't pay their bills.




Danascot

(4,690 posts)
2. I had a disturbing thought a few days ago
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:24 AM
Mar 2020

We were repeatedly warned that a pandemic was only a matter of when, not if.

We've been warned about climate change for years and done nothing about it.

We have also been warned that infrastructure like the electrical generation and distribution system is highly vulnerable to being shut down by computer attacks. If Putin or Kim or some other bad actor decides to launch such an attack once we're well in the throes of Covid19 that could really finish us.



Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
3. Well, they are based heavily on automated systems...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:28 AM
Mar 2020

though if we were to be hacked right now, we'd need humans to counter it.

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