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That would do more to slow the virus spread and save the economy at the same time.
Next, get the fucking test kits out there now. Finally, start setting up regional sites for taking care of the sick.
jimfields33
(15,958 posts)That would help so much for everyone.
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CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)I've been having to buy things online (at inflated prices no doubt!).
This is difficult when trying to get by on the $900 a month I receive from SSDI.
I've spent a few hundred $ in the past couple of weeks, that I normally would have never spent.
I'm getting short on food and will be out by next week and I am afraid to go to the store.
So, yes, $3K would really help a lot right now!
Thanks for posting this.
& recommend.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)That way the risk for you will be much lower.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)Low income folks can't afford to shop at Safeway.
Credit card here it comes!
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)Rural communities tend to be this way like it or not.
Thanks for the idea btw!
I appreciate it!
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)I have never done Amazon. I am a low income person and Amazon is out of my league.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)I've never bought food from amazon.
I'll see what I can find out!
Thanks!
demosincebirth
(12,543 posts)I stick with Safeway or Lucky stores, they deliver.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)It would probably be safer than going to the store though.
standingtall
(2,787 posts)their probably contracting through 3rd party apps and having gig workers deliver it for them. What happens if they get sick? Independent contractors don't get sick leave.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)standingtall
(2,787 posts)The point is people who don't get sick leave have no other source of income. So they may work even when their sick making it easier to spread the virus and even if they chose not to work when sick. Grocery stores would not have the manpower to accommodate delivering on a national scale.
Kaiserguy
(740 posts)However the Republicans will be sending check out but only to the 1%
Windy City Charlie
(1,178 posts)I talked to a person who thinks the right way to handle something like this to cut out the bureaucracy is to have the corporations and business apply for money and leave it up to them to disperse it to their employees. I told him most of the corporations would pocket all that money and the employees would never see it.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Then it will take another chunk of time to figure out who gets what. By then it will be too late when people will be needing it in the next couple of weeks.
Mosby
(16,357 posts)Took about 6 months to get the checks issued though.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Not 6 months from now when people will be facing foreclosures on their homes and their cars being repossessed.
RussBLib
(9,036 posts)Hey, whatever happened to shrinking the government small enough to drown it in a bathtub? Don't hear much about that anymore.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)The idiots hellbent on cutting social safety nets are accomplishing the opposite of what they claim. They are damaging the economy.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/06/how-boosting-the-income-of-the-poor-spurs-growth/
Windy City Charlie
(1,178 posts)Instead of giving it to the poor, they'll give the money to people who don't need it anymore and won't spend it. You know, that "trickle-down" effect?
cannabis_flower
(3,765 posts)The poor people!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in 2016. It would have been nice to see the systems we'd developed to deal with these situations tried out. Including the CDC, which was established during the Democratic Truman administration to identify and stop epidemics where they start so they never get here. And did a damned good job for over 7 decades, before today's predatory Republicans got power.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)A trip to NYC may sound extravagant, but there are middle and working class people that are employed by the airlines, hotels, and Broadway shows. You would be helping them out a lot.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Sheltering at home is already sounding less than conducive to happy fantasies.
So I deleted and was able to come up with another -- that our nation was functioning as it did before 2016. The Republicans were already dismantling and destroying, and accelerated big time in the 1990s through then, but even so our resilience made it a long slog for them.
durablend
(7,464 posts)The Fox News freaks would be SCREAMING
Windy City Charlie
(1,178 posts)Those freaks would be the first ones with their hands out waiting for their $3000. As long as they get theirs, they say hell to everyone else.
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)They'd just go out and spend their $3000 and continue the spread.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)No one will be spending money for the next few weeks, and that alone will sink the economy. Do they not understand this?
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)We need to replicate, as much as we can, what China did.
They are coming back online, intact.
Nay
(12,051 posts)10 cents on the dollar. Including people and governments.
quakerboy
(13,921 posts)Except insofar as it might make them look bad so it must be hidden as much as possible.
KPN
(15,650 posts)Excellent idea -- but make it $4,500.
Windy City Charlie
(1,178 posts)It probably wouldn't end up being very fair on how people would end up getting taxed on that $3,000
tinrobot
(10,916 posts)It would cost less than a billion to cut the checks. They've already approved eight billion.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)209,000,000 adults in the USA
give each one of them $3000 =
$627-billion
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)and it crashed the next day.
Gambling causes losses, in this case loss of lives!
FUCK WALL STREET!
stopbush
(24,396 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)But they have all this money for Wall Street as needed.
The point is that if they don't have any money to help the people, then why are they able to give so much to Wall Street as needed?
stopbush
(24,396 posts)by a factor of 627. There was nothing in my post about whether giving people $3000 was a good thing to do or a bad thing to do.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)They need to do this ASAP!
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)And only one person allowed in, unless assisting another.
And mobilize delivery squads to minimize need for said trips.
RussBLib
(9,036 posts)I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Fortunately we have such a service as Amazon in this era. 40 years ago? No Amazon. No fucking internet.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Amazon is prepping for the possibility of having to shut down some of their enormous warehouses. Lots of sweaty people in one building is a recipe for disaster.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)Every time a co-worker called in sick, esp. if it was a man, every one wondered if it was AIDS.
No one came right out and said it, they didn't need to.
This was in 1979 before it even had the name AIDS.
It was a scary time to live though. I worked in for a group of surgeons that ran in and out of the office often with splatters of blood to be seen as it was directly across the hall from the blood gas room where we had to go to make coffee for the doctors coming out of the OR all day!
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)lostnfound
(16,190 posts)Hahaha.
They can use it to build more doomsday hideouts and yachts.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)They do that in the alternate Universe where things actually make sense, people are reasonable about things and human suffering is not acceptable.
I am sorry, but we somehow managed to be in the one that is really messed up and doesn't cater to humans so much. A check to industry is what is done in this timeline.
lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)only we don't have to send everyone a check for $3000... just $1000...
Because with my plan... everything stops... payments and collections... the stock market, profit and loss, everything.
The 30 days simply don't exist.
The $1000 is to pay delivery people to bring you food.
There are lots of details.
Cost A TON less than what the stock market crash just cost us.
brokephibroke
(1,883 posts)But you have a good plan, way better than a payroll tax holiday.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)In turn, they will pay their rent/mortgages and other bills, and in turn that money will go to pay other working class people. And all along the way, these people are spending and paying taxes.
Ultimately, the government gets their money back.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,043 posts)Yavin4
(35,446 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,043 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,323 posts)that keeps the liquor stores open.
ooky
(8,929 posts)really any good reason, i.e., if schools shut down and kids aren't getting food that they normally get at school, they need money for food. To that point it's a great idea.
But I would also want to do it responsibly. Sending me money, for example, would not make sense, as I am retired, and live off a combination of my retirement account, plus social security - so I am not out of any income due to the virus. Also, there should be some sort of cut off so we aren't sending money to the wealthy.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)If you don't need it, donate it.
ooky
(8,929 posts)An income tax adjustment can be made later if need be.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)Get the money out to people now.
would tax adjustments later keep it from going out now? How are you planning on getting the money to the people?
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)Send an ATM card, check, or direct deposit into a bank account.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)And still had a half trillion left over.
Initech
(100,103 posts)durablend
(7,464 posts)"Not payin for you god hating libs to loaf around on the sofa with MAH hard erned tax money" /MAGAt
Initech
(100,103 posts)world wide wally
(21,755 posts)No way they are going to send out checks to everyone.
relayerbob
(6,555 posts)$1.5T gone in about 45 minutes
Luciferous
(6,085 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,462 posts)... if other countries fail to do the same, we will have another outbreak soon after we return from the hiatus. It would help flatten the curve to reduce strain on our healthcare system, but this is a global problem that needs global solutions and cooperations.
Too bad shitstain has pissed off most of the rest of the world. It might be nice to have friends right now.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)IronLionZion
(45,530 posts)and give some extra special stimulus to Trump's hotels.
They'll pay for it by cutting funding for CDC and public health