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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:00 PM Mar 2020

Poll: Trump holds double-digit lead in Iowa over Biden and Sanders

OMG> what the F. is wrong with people!!






Poll: Trump holds double-digit lead in Iowa over Biden and Sanders
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/487277-poll-trump-holds-double-digit-lead-in-iowa-over-biden-and-sanders



By Tal Axelrod - 03/12/20 02:06 PM EDT


President Trump holds strong leads over both former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in potential head-to-head matchups in Iowa, according to a Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa poll released Thursday.

Trump leads Biden among likely voters by a 51 percent to 41 percent margin,
with 8 percent of voters saying they are undecided in the hypothetical matchup.

Trump gets the support of 53 percent of likely voters in a matchup with Sanders, who gets 41 percent support
. Six percent of voters are undecided in a Trump-Sanders head-to-head.

The president is buoyed by a net-positive approval rating — 50 percent of Iowans approve of the job he’s doing, while 47 percent disapprove. Thursday’s poll marks the first time in which Trump’s approval rating has broken even in the survey.

“That is a high-water mark in the Iowa Poll,” said J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Co., which conducted the survey...........................

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Poll: Trump holds double-digit lead in Iowa over Biden and Sanders (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2020 OP
It's been red for a while now. Trump won it by 10 points, almost exactly the same margin. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #1
Conservatives will debase themselves and ruin their own lives for Trump. Look at Sessions Thomas Hurt Mar 2020 #2
What's wrong with Iowa? tman Mar 2020 #3
The smart people leave Bettie Mar 2020 #17
Wow, I was going to call fantasy on this one but - dhol82 Mar 2020 #4
A black hole for Democratic campaign resources. Raven123 Mar 2020 #5
Poll: March 2-5. Hmmm? empedocles Mar 2020 #6
MAGA cultists would rather die ibegurpard Mar 2020 #7
Fox propaganda is non-stop -- blames Dems for coronavirus scare. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #8
Guns, evangelicals, abortion, and white people exboyfil Mar 2020 #9
Yes, I too was hopeful when Iowa elected Democratic Congressmen. We'll see come November. Midnight Writer Mar 2020 #13
Its a poll. Its Iowa. We're still seven months away. At the same time we need to remember ... marble falls Mar 2020 #10
Don't waste money or time there Thrill Mar 2020 #11
He won Iowa by 10 points in 2016. I'm not surprised. Flaleftist Mar 2020 #12
Yeah, but.......... MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #38
True. Maybe there is something about Iowa. Flaleftist Mar 2020 #39
Reason enough there to move the first primary out rufus dog Mar 2020 #14
The farmer welfare ? Although I heard it went to big Agra mostly but maybe they didnt see the harm lunasun Mar 2020 #15
Stupid ass people Lars39 Mar 2020 #16
Racism and nativism play well in the heartland Azathoth Mar 2020 #18
My effing a-hole BIL in Iowa could not fellate Trump fast enough. Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #19
Surrounded by Trump Zombies in TN....... Tenngal Mar 2020 #20
Iowa was always a very fragile state with comparatively few liberals Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #21
People in tractors and trucks listening to hate radio all damn day long. IADEMO2004 Mar 2020 #22
So how did a gay man for the Dems WIN IOWA??? a kennedy Mar 2020 #23
Because Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #25
Iowa's not in play this year. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #24
I agree with that Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #33
I was hoping you'd chime in. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #35
Let's see how many Iowans die from COVID over the next 6 months Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #26
Don Corona, the King of Iowa Blue Owl Mar 2020 #27
Iowa is a total lost cause. We should devote absolutely zero resources to that state in the general. tarheelsunc Mar 2020 #28
The Primary fiasco didn't create an aura of competence. redstateblues Mar 2020 #29
Iowa may just be too red to win this time around. FM123 Mar 2020 #30
No offense to any hawkeyes edhopper Mar 2020 #31
Seriously, they are a lost cause. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #32
6 electoral votes edhopper Mar 2020 #37
I think Virginia's a solid blue state now. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #36
Iowa was 6-2 Blue last 8 presidential years Kerry Clinton Red years. IADEMO2004 Mar 2020 #34

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
17. The smart people leave
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:24 PM
Mar 2020

especially the younger ones. What we have left are the dregs.

I would love to live elsewhere, but this is where my DH's job is.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
7. MAGA cultists would rather die
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:09 PM
Mar 2020

Than admit they were wrong. The worse it gets because of him the tighter they will cling to him. And by MAGA cultists i mean all Republicans and right leaners. What in the past 4 years has shown us any different? The only reason we've been winning elections is because we've been turning out everyone else.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,339 posts)
8. Fox propaganda is non-stop -- blames Dems for coronavirus scare.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:12 PM
Mar 2020

I live in a red county that went almost 80% trump. All the GOPers are talking about coronavirus and failed impeachment in the same breath. It's not hard to figure out where they get this insane linkage.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
9. Guns, evangelicals, abortion, and white people
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:13 PM
Mar 2020

I thought we were changing with getting two new Democratic representatives, but I guess I was wrong. The farmer bail out money and expanded ethanol are big drivers in the state.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
10. Its a poll. Its Iowa. We're still seven months away. At the same time we need to remember ...
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:18 PM
Mar 2020

POTUS is not the only office up for grabs. State legislatures seats are as important to us this year especially if we are going to fix and end GOP gerrymandering. We're getting the White House. We need to fight for every single office down to dog catcher, too.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
39. True. Maybe there is something about Iowa.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:10 PM
Mar 2020

Just a few percent everywhere else will make a difference in in November.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
14. Reason enough there to move the first primary out
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:28 PM
Mar 2020

Sorry, but any red state shouldn't have such impact on our candidate.

Nothing against the Dems in Iowa, but why should so much focus be put on a state that is red and lacks diversity.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
15. The farmer welfare ? Although I heard it went to big Agra mostly but maybe they didnt see the harm
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:22 PM
Mar 2020

of his policies . Plus when I was there pretty white on white so maybe holding on to their trump nationalism / racism feelies

 

Tenngal

(19 posts)
20. Surrounded by Trump Zombies in TN.......
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:39 PM
Mar 2020

And it is maddening to listen to them constantly praising him.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
21. Iowa was always a very fragile state with comparatively few liberals
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:54 PM
Mar 2020

I took note of that once I began following political math in 1992. Iowa never had anywhere near the normal number of self-identified liberals given the reputation of the state or the way the state voted. It was always in the 19-21% range of liberals compared to 36-37% self-identified conservatives.

By all logic, that is a red state. The national gap used to be 12% more conservatives than liberals, but now it is down to 9%. Iowa still has the 17% gap but conservatives are up to 40% with liberals slightly up to 23%. The difference is we used to get a bizarre favorable split of self-identified moderates, in the 63-36 range. That is incredible and not sustainable. Beginning in 2016 the moderate split was a more logical 51-47.

Any state with 40% conservatives is not worth pursuing if it is trending in the wrong direction and the demographics are not favorable. The Iowa electorate is 90% whites. Those whites have shifted more conservative. There is no meaningful demographic to shift it back in our direction.

We can waste time in Iowa or we can emphasize a state like Arizona which is also 40% conservatives but all the demographic trends are in our favor.

Turin_C3PO

(13,975 posts)
25. Because
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:34 PM
Mar 2020

it was a Democratic primary, not a general election where Repubs can vote. Iowa Dems are pretty liberal in my experience.

Turin_C3PO

(13,975 posts)
24. Iowa's not in play this year.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:33 PM
Mar 2020

I don’t think the Biden campaign should waste much time their. Or Ohio for that matter. Focus on the traditional three swing states as well as Florida, Arizona and maybe Georgia and North Carolina.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
33. I agree with that
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:50 PM
Mar 2020

Ohio is no chance and Iowa is no chance.

Arizona is in play, along with Florida then North Carolina. I am not optimistic about Georgia or Texas.

Texas will come later once the Hispanic population is better represented and participating, the second generation types.

There's always too much negativity toward Florida in this site. That state is always close but we end up on the short end. No question Florida is greater opportunity than Texas or Georgia right now but I'm sure Georgia and Texas will receive more hype here. Biden can win more of the 45+ block in Florida, partially because Trump's older supporters from 2016 have partially died out. The 65+ group is now including as many Baby Boomers as Silent Generation, which was always the most conservative generation.

Turin_C3PO

(13,975 posts)
35. I was hoping you'd chime in.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:55 PM
Mar 2020

I agree that we should definitely focus on Florida. Demographically, I’m excited for the future because it appears that Millennials who are approaching their forties are just as liberal as they were when they were twenty. As that population starts voting in greater numbers and the Silent Generation dies off, I think we’ll see the Republican’s power wane significantly.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
30. Iowa may just be too red to win this time around.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:42 PM
Mar 2020

But if we win at least one of those purplish states like Florida (29 electoral votes) or Texas (38 electoral votes) we can overcome that loss of 6 in Iowa.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
31. No offense to any hawkeyes
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:44 PM
Mar 2020

But who gives a fuck about Iowa?

Let's keep our eye on MI, WI, PA and FL.

VA, NC, and AZ to.

It's only 6 fucking electoral votes.

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