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Tink41

(537 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:43 AM Mar 2020

CDC/WHO symptoms do not match!

Woke up this morning with sinus issues, I do not have allergies. So I decided to refresh my memory as to the symptoms of COV-ID9. I Google, up comes CDC in results along with a permanent side bar from WHO. They do not match. CDC lists 3 symptoms Fever, cough, shortness of breath. The WHO lists runny nose, cough, sore throat, fever. THIS is important! I feel anyone looking for symptoms will see the 3 listed and think they are fine and go out as opposed to suspect they may have something and isolate.

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CDC/WHO symptoms do not match! (Original Post) Tink41 Mar 2020 OP
What about shaky and lightheaded? I've looked more like the WHO list than CDC. GreenPartyVoter Mar 2020 #1
Not sure Tink41 Mar 2020 #2
Could be seasonal flu, which is nothing to fool around with either. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #11
I think WHO is listing all reported symptoms, but everything I've read suggests The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #3
Not worried about me Tink41 Mar 2020 #5
I've seen dry cough/sore throat mentioned a lot. Renew Deal Mar 2020 #7
I agree Tink41 Mar 2020 #12
Yes, specifially a dry cough eleny Mar 2020 #30
Anyone with any flu or cold symptoms should stay home LakeArenal Mar 2020 #4
Don't mean to be rude Tink41 Mar 2020 #6
Every symptom at this time around is serious. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #8
I always read profiles. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2020 #9
Meaning?? Tink41 Mar 2020 #18
Meaning I have a habit. Make of that what you will. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2020 #20
Odd Tink41 Mar 2020 #24
Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #32
They are listing the most common symptoms. Over time as we get more confirmed data on symptom hlthe2b Mar 2020 #10
I read from the CDC that diarrhea is also a symptom. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #13
YES!! Tink41 Mar 2020 #15
Runny nose and cough (not dry) are probably a cold/allergy NutmegYankee Mar 2020 #14
Early spring allergies are bad this year because there's so much snow mold. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #19
It's pretty simple... defacto7 Mar 2020 #16
YES!! Tink41 Mar 2020 #17
CV-19 is the new strain of coronavirus uponit7771 Mar 2020 #21
Could you be more clear? Tink41 Mar 2020 #22
NBC had a blurb on it and the conflation of coronavirus and covid-19. Coronavirus is uponit7771 Mar 2020 #26
Coronavirus is the name for a family of viruses. The official name for this one is SARS-CoV-2. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #28
👍 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #29
Thanks for pointing that out lunasun Mar 2020 #23
Shortness of breathe seems to be the one that differentiates. Along with fever and dry cough. LizBeth Mar 2020 #25
During this press conference, the WHO clearly states that a runny nose is not a symptom: At 17:00 Glimmer of Hope Mar 2020 #27
Fever! Allergies can produce most of these other Duppers Mar 2020 #31

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
11. Could be seasonal flu, which is nothing to fool around with either.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:55 AM
Mar 2020

People with respiratory systems should stay home until they know what they've got.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
3. I think WHO is listing all reported symptoms, but everything I've read suggests
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:47 AM
Mar 2020

that the major and usually consistent symptoms are fever and a persistent cough, with other respiratory symptoms possible. What they screen for (when they do screen) is fever. If you don't have a fever you probably have something else. But when in doubt, isolate and call your doctor.

Tink41

(537 posts)
5. Not worried about me
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:49 AM
Mar 2020

I am worried about the misinformation. People will have some sniffles shrug it off and go about daily business infecting others!!
It's the lack of concise information

Renew Deal

(81,858 posts)
7. I've seen dry cough/sore throat mentioned a lot.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:50 AM
Mar 2020

I’m both surprised and not surprised. I would use the international sources for medical info.

CDC has some family/work info which is fine, but it is clear their boss has an agenda and it is not your wellbeing.

Tink41

(537 posts)
12. I agree
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:55 AM
Mar 2020

And it's why I was taken aback this morning. I seemed to remember different symptoms talked about 3 weeks ago so I went back to check and (poof) magically disappeared from CDC. Again I'm not "concerned" for myself, meaning I'm staying on top of info from everywhere, but their are others who look only at CDC and shrug.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
4. Anyone with any flu or cold symptoms should stay home
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:47 AM
Mar 2020

No one right now wants to be around anyone with any coughing, sniffles or sore throat.

Tink41

(537 posts)
6. Don't mean to be rude
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:50 AM
Mar 2020

But people reading the CDC symptoms may not think they have something potentially serious. We already have enough deniers going about Spring Break, hanging out at bars, restaurants not believing it's a thing and this contributes to it

Tink41

(537 posts)
18. Meaning??
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:32 AM
Mar 2020

What does this mean? And what does a profile have to do with noticing a discrepancy between the two health organizations?

Tink41

(537 posts)
24. Odd
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:16 PM
Mar 2020

Odd how it could pertain to post I made. How it made sense to comment what you did. I'm simply pointing out something I came across this morning and based on convos I've had with other people the last week, I found it alarming that the symptoms are not the same. You see there are people out there who seem to be shrugging this off, and its not about getting sick as much as overwhelming the hospital system where people with other conditions, may be turned away for lack of room. But make unrelated comments if you must, the info I posted is just a Google away, anyone can see within seconds it's true.

hlthe2b

(102,263 posts)
10. They are listing the most common symptoms. Over time as we get more confirmed data on symptom
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:55 AM
Mar 2020

frequency, their descriptions will change. Remember US is still in the cold/flu season and there is an attempt to distinguish. There will always be some who have the less common symptoms along with the more frequent. And, there is no reason to believe that a small number of individuals could not be co-infected with both a cold virus and COVID-19, showing symptoms of both.


Here is published data on confirmed COVID-19 symptom frequency based on 55, 924 lab-confirmed cases worldwide:


As of 20 February 2020 and
based on 55924 laboratory-confirmed cases, typical signs and symptoms include:fever (87.9%), dry cough (67.7%), fatigue (38.1%), sputum production (33.4%), shortness of breath (18.6%), sore throat (13.9%), headache (13.6%), myalgiaor arthralgia (14.8%), chills(11.4%), nausea or vomiting (5.0%), nasal congestion (4.8%), diarrhea (3.7%), and hemoptysis (0.9%), and conjunctival congestion (0.8%).

People with COVID-19 generally develop signs and symptoms,including mild respiratory symptoms and fever, on an average of 5-6 days after infection (mean incubation period 5-6 days, range 1-14 days). Most people infected with COVID-19 virus have mild disease and recover. Approximately 80% of laboratory-confirmed patients have had mild to moderate disease, which includes pneumonia and pneumonia cases, 13.8% have severe disease (dyspnea, respiratory frequency ≥30/minute, blood oxygen saturation≤93%, PaO2/FiO2 ratio <300, and/or lung infiltrates >50% of the lung field within 24-48 hours) and 6.1% are critical (respiratory failure, septic shock, and/or multiple organ dysfunction/failure). Asymptomatic infection has been reported, but the majority of the relatively rare cases who are asymptomatic on the date of identification/report wenton to develop disease.


https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

Tink41

(537 posts)
15. YES!!
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:02 AM
Mar 2020

I remember that also, my Dad had that going on beginning this week, then he had fatigue, sinus, cough. Elderly. No I have not been in contact.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
14. Runny nose and cough (not dry) are probably a cold/allergy
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:00 AM
Mar 2020

The key difference appears to be fever. I have an occasional cough, related to a very mild runny nose for the last few weeks, but no fever. Given the minimal impact on my energy, probably allergies.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
19. Early spring allergies are bad this year because there's so much snow mold.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:36 AM
Mar 2020

I've been sniffling and sneezing for weeks, no other symptoms. Feels like the usual allergies.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
16. It's pretty simple...
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:13 AM
Mar 2020

WHO wants people to catch earlier symptoms that may be covid, CDC doesn't want to be bothered so they go with the symptoms that mean it's possibly too late which saves money. I'm not kidding, that's how I see it.

Tink41

(537 posts)
17. YES!!
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:28 AM
Mar 2020

So I remember about 3 weeks ago maybe 4, joking about the Chinese and how they were attempting to build 2 hospitals in 3 days. Being in the building trades we were really thrown. Anyway the symptoms listed then were different than today. And I am agreeing with you, it's what prompted me to post.

Tink41

(537 posts)
22. Could you be more clear?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:10 PM
Mar 2020

Not sure what you are getting at. Google the terms I did results came up that do not match. Coronavirus symptoms. If you Google CV symptoms well a certain car part comes up.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
26. NBC had a blurb on it and the conflation of coronavirus and covid-19. Coronavirus is
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:48 PM
Mar 2020

... is something common where COVID-19 is the new.

Here's from https://www.avera.org/balance/infectious-disease/influenza-or-covid-19-whats-the-difference/

Using the term “coronavirus” can cause confusion as well. COVID-19 is a coronavirus, but not the only one. COVID-19 specifies a certain strain of a coronavirus (COronaVIrus Disease-2019 = COVID-19).


I'll start just using CV-19 for now on, is shorter and less confusing

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
28. Coronavirus is the name for a family of viruses. The official name for this one is SARS-CoV-2.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:54 PM
Mar 2020

COVID-19 is the name for the disease, not the virus.

Sorry for the broken link. You'll need to cut/paste

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/technical-guidance/naming-the-coronavirus-disease-(covid-2019)-and-the-virus-that-causes-it

Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
27. During this press conference, the WHO clearly states that a runny nose is not a symptom: At 17:00
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:53 PM
Mar 2020
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Duppers

(28,120 posts)
31. Fever! Allergies can produce most of these other
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:19 PM
Mar 2020

Symptoms with the rare exception of fever, soooo, I have to go with fever since I already have the others.

Fever definitely means your body is fighting an infection.


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