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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 07:07 AM Mar 2020

NYT: Which Areas in America Are Worse Off Since 2016? (Answer: areas that voted for Trump)

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/upshot/american-counties-left-behind-trump.html

Five percent of Americans live in counties where two of three key economic measures were worse in 2019 than 2016.

By Jed Kolko

March 16, 2020, 5:00 a.m. ET

Although economists now expect that the coronavirus will lead to a major recession, the American economy improved steadily for nearly a decade, under both President Obama and President Trump.

Gains have been widespread since 2016, when Mr. Trump was elected, with the lowest-wage industries and workers seeing the biggest wage gains. And yet not all of America is better off.

Five percent of Americans live in counties where the economy was worse off in 2019 than in 2016, on at least two of three key economic measures.



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Worse-off counties voted Trump-over-Clinton in 2016 by an average margin of 21 percentage points. The couple of dozen counties that are worse off on all three measures voted for Trump by an average margin of 47 percentage points. The rest of the country, where the vast majority of population and voters are, favored Hillary Clinton by three percentage points.

Of course, most of blue America and most of red America was better off economically in 2019 than in 2016 — and to a similar extent on average. While the most struggling places in America tended to vote for Mr. Trump, so did a disproportionate share of places with the fastest job growth since 2016. Red America includes places with a wider range of economic conditions — booming outer suburbs as well as struggling Great Plains farming communities — than blue America does.

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There ya go... FWIW, my upstate NY county is pink (and voted for Trump).
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NYT: Which Areas in America Are Worse Off Since 2016? (Answer: areas that voted for Trump) (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 OP
I'm glad I live in NJ JustAnotherGen Mar 2020 #1
Perhaps... Newest Reality Mar 2020 #2
Just wait until the effects of "COVID parties" show up hvn_nbr_2 Mar 2020 #3
My county is red on this map AwakeAtLast Mar 2020 #4
That map is too dense for the *average* American to understand. SMC22307 Mar 2020 #5

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
1. I'm glad I live in NJ
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 07:57 AM
Mar 2020

Hunterdon County went Trump in 2016.
The 7th District flipped to Malinowski in 2018.

Phil demolished his opponent in 2017.

Tom and Phil make Hunterdon better.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. Perhaps...
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 09:21 AM
Mar 2020

That kind of information is just too complex for many of those in those areas who voted for him?

If they are not aware of the facts, then they will just rinse and repeat based on sound bytes and sentiments and wanting to be right at all costs. Typical.

I am not going to attack them, though. For that many people in a complex, technological, information-based culture like this to remain immune to information that might be vital to their well-being and flourishing reflects something deeper and more pervasive in a sociological sense. It's like the symptoms that you get before the flu.

Our culture has some unaddressed problems and they are legion. We collectively ignore them at our own peril. The shock to the system right now seems to underscore that. A facade is not a foundation upon analysis.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,486 posts)
3. Just wait until the effects of "COVID parties" show up
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:32 AM
Mar 2020

By "COVID parties," I mean all the gatherings of wingnuts for CPAC-type things, all the hoax-believers congregating in bars and restaurants (like that OK politician tweeted about), all the defiant hand-shakers, all gathering together to infect each other, just like "measles parties." I'm predicting that all the places where Faux Noize is considered gospel truth are gonna be the first places to cross the line in that graph that shows the health care system becoming completely overwhelmed. It's gonna be ugly.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
5. That map is too dense for the *average* American to understand.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:30 AM
Mar 2020

I mean, it takes a fair amount of effort to weed through it. The Democratic Party needs to distill it down to a simple message when asking these voters if they're better or worse off with Trump in office. The NYT and other publications put out great data, but is Joe Schmoe in some rural red county pouring over it? No. And *smartypants liberals* need to stop assuming that they are. Same as when *we* assume these same Jane and Joe Schmoe voters knew all of Drumpf's dirt during the 2016 campaign. They didn't.

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