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Survivoreesta

(221 posts)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 08:38 PM Jan 2012

K&R if you think MORE REPRESENTATIVE states than IA and NH should go first>

And I mean both parties! How about Oregon? A biggish city, plenty of farms, urban & rural. For us, you have some of the most progressive people in the country. For the GOP, gun-worshippers and white supremacists abound.

That's just one state I'm throwing out there. Not too big for retail campaigning, not too small to be anomalous. By all means make your own suggestions. But I think we can agree that Iowa and New Hampshire do NOT deserve the huge voice they currently have in our politics!

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K&R if you think MORE REPRESENTATIVE states than IA and NH should go first> (Original Post) Survivoreesta Jan 2012 OP
Why aren't the primaries all done on the same day? MoonRiver Jan 2012 #1
I would rather see 5 states at the same time, 10 weeks worth for both parties DJ13 Jan 2012 #2
This happens in the general. MoonRiver Jan 2012 #4
My thoughts exactly! LeftofObama Jan 2012 #3
That would favor moneyed candidates> Survivoreesta Jan 2012 #6
Monied people get favored anyway. MoonRiver Jan 2012 #8
Under your suggestion, yes!> Survivoreesta Jan 2012 #9
I can dig Oregon going first XemaSab Jan 2012 #5
Right> Survivoreesta Jan 2012 #7
I like the idea of rotating regional primaries so that the whole neverforget Jan 2012 #10
But> Survivoreesta Jan 2012 #12
I agree with this one Jim Lane Jan 2012 #15
How about gopiscrap Jan 2012 #11
For the most part, I agree with you..... DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #13
I think all the primaries should be done at the same time... PhoenixAbove Jan 2012 #14
The Iowa and NH tradition should be retired already quinnox Jan 2012 #16

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
2. I would rather see 5 states at the same time, 10 weeks worth for both parties
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 08:46 PM
Jan 2012

Preferably every other week, with a mix of large and small (and a territory) each round.

Stretching it out has one advantage, it would prevent a real asshole candidate from fooling people just long enough to secure the nomination, such as a single day of voting nationwide might allow.

 

Survivoreesta

(221 posts)
6. That would favor moneyed candidates>
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:03 PM
Jan 2012

Jimmy Carter for instance would have been bowled over by Hubert Humphrey in 1976. Barack Obama wouldn't have had a chance against the Clinton Machine 4 years ago.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
8. Monied people get favored anyway.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jan 2012

Just start the primaries earlier so all candidates will have an equal shot. I don't think it is fair for a few states to effectively elect nominees. But maybe it saves the other states money they would spend on primaries. I'm sure the reason has something to do with saving money for the PTB.

 

Survivoreesta

(221 posts)
9. Under your suggestion, yes!>
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 09:40 PM
Jan 2012

Smaller elections are needed to allow dark horses the chance to get their messages across person-to-person without having huge war chests.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
5. I can dig Oregon going first
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 08:55 PM
Jan 2012

I definitely would not want a big state like California.

The election would be all about the candidate who could spend the most money in the Bay Area and LA.

 

Survivoreesta

(221 posts)
12. But>
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jan 2012

The more you expand it, the less important retail campaigning becomes, and the more emphasis on big ad buys.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
15. I agree with this one
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:37 PM
Jan 2012

There's no ready way to eliminate the excessive advantage of the candidate with lots of money, but one big national primary would make that problem even worse. Going in stages is better.

If there are stages, then someone has to go first. There's nothing wrong with Iowa and New Hampshire going first. The problem is with them going first in every cycle. That's why it should rotate.

Regional primaries would somewhat reduce the influence of money because candidates could concentrate on a smaller number of media markets. It would also reduce their carbon footprint as they jet around the country.

gopiscrap

(23,760 posts)
11. How about
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jan 2012

CA, NY, PA, FL, TX and PA go first

followed by: WY, AK, VT, DE and DC the next week

Then: IL, OH, MI, NJ, NC and VA next

followed by: RI, ID, NH, ME, MT the next week

Then: VA, WA, MO, MA, IN, MN next

followed by: NV, NM, ND, SD, UT

Then: CT, MY, OK, CO, LA, AL

followed by: HI, NE, KS, etc you get the picture

PhoenixAbove

(166 posts)
14. I think all the primaries should be done at the same time...
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 04:46 AM
Jan 2012

or, at most, 2 or 3 phases. By the time I get to vote most of the candidates I want are knocked off the ballot. It is infuriating.

I like Iowans, I really do, but how could they no what's best for me while I resided in a Northern city. Some of our concerns are totally different. They have no right to be the arbiters of who everybody else gets to vote for. Same for New Hampshire!

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
16. The Iowa and NH tradition should be retired already
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:44 PM
Jan 2012

Iowa is full of white conservative people and why are they so special to set the tone and get to go first? Its crazy. I agree with staggering it out for drama sake and to expose candidates, maybe a region of states can all vote at once like go from South East to Midwest to Pacific Coast etc. all over a time period of months.

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