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I really hate hearing that we may have to triage seniors. (Original Post) milestogo Mar 2020 OP
I agree. Definitely with the mortality rate of this virus. roamer65 Mar 2020 #1
What bothers me wryter2000 Mar 2020 #2
In their 60s many people are very active, 'elderly is BS, maybe 1940s. appalachiablue Mar 2020 #9
I just hope KentuckyWoman Mar 2020 #3
I hope you stay well. milestogo Mar 2020 #4
Thank you. KentuckyWoman Mar 2020 #5
Meanwhile I bet some old billionaires have an ICU in a 2nd building off their Mansions already. Brainfodder Mar 2020 #6
Same for morphine, saw dad go that way with advanced c appalachiablue Mar 2020 #10
Over the past few years, many hospitals, DeminPennswoods Mar 2020 #7
It will come to that, as the American healthcare system is shambolically incapable of dealing with Celerity Mar 2020 #8
YOU hate hearing it???? PCIntern Mar 2020 #11

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
1. I agree. Definitely with the mortality rate of this virus.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 08:21 PM
Mar 2020

If it were MERS, which is around 30-40 pct, we would have no choice but with this virus it is pure negligence.

wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
2. What bothers me
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 08:30 PM
Mar 2020

I hate seeing 60 being called “elderly.” I’m 71, and I can tell you there’s a big difference between 60 and 70

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
3. I just hope
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:44 AM
Mar 2020

If it gets dicey for me someone will accidentally give me too much morphine.

I am old, have asthma, no kids, and my husband passed in December. I am in no hurry, taking all precautions, but heroic measures for me are a poor use of limited resources

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
5. Thank you.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:26 AM
Mar 2020

I feel grateful I have the luxury of staying home. Medical people, pharmacies, groceries, truckers... I really feel for all of them.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
6. Meanwhile I bet some old billionaires have an ICU in a 2nd building off their Mansions already.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:31 AM
Mar 2020

I know I would!

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
7. Over the past few years, many hospitals,
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:02 AM
Mar 2020

especially in rural or less populated areas have been forced to close. My sense is there is more capacity in the country than people realize that could be reactivated. Just a few weeks ago a hospital not far from me went bankrupt and closed.

Celerity

(43,353 posts)
8. It will come to that, as the American healthcare system is shambolically incapable of dealing with
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:53 AM
Mar 2020

a massive pandemic. Even Italy and France, the 2 best systems overall in the world, are utterly incapable atm. South Korea has the most beds per population, and they are also amongst the best so far at dealing with it.

The only positive that will come out of this is that the rotters who scream 'We have the BEST healthcare system in the world!' will forever be exposed as charlatans and frauds.



The US needs a lot more hospital beds to prepare for a spike in coronavirus cases

South Korea has 12.3 hospital beds per 1,000 people. The US has 2.8.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/14/21179714/coronavirus-covid-19-hospital-beds-china







THE LEGATUM PROSPERITY INDEX™ 2019 Creating the Pathways from Poverty to Prosperity

https://www.prosperity.com/rankings?pinned=USA&filter=

The US is ranked 59th in healthcare here




18th overall quality of life (safety, housing, and healthcare kill its chances to be higher)




Best Healthcare In The World by Population 2020

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-in-the-world/

37th here in healthcare here

Country....Healthcare Rank....Population 2020

France 1 65,273,511
Italy 2 60,461,826
San Marino 3 33,931
Andorra 4 77,265
Malta 5 441,543
Singapore 6 5,850,342
Spain 7 46,754,778
Oman 8 5,106,626
Austria 9 9,006,398
Japan 10 126,476,461
Norway 11 5,421,241
Portugal 12 10,196,709
Monaco 13 39,242
Greece 14 10,423,054
Iceland 15 341,243
Luxembourg 16 625,978
Netherlands 17 17,134,872
United Kingdom 18 67,886,011
Ireland 19 4,937,786
Switzerland 20 8,654,622
Belgium 21 11,589,623
Colombia 22 50,882,891
Sweden 23 10,099,265
Cyprus 24 1,207,359
Germany 25 83,783,942
Saudi Arabia 26 34,813,871
United Arab Emirates 27 9,890,402
Israel 28 8,655,535
Morocco 29 36,910,560
Canada 30 37,742,154
Finland 31 5,540,720
Australia 32 25,499,884
Chile 33 19,116,201
Denmark 34 5,792,202
Dominica 35 71,986
Costa Rica 36 5,094,118
United States 37 331,002,651
Slovenia 38 2,078,938
Cuba 39 11,326,616
Brunei 40 437,479
New Zealand 41 4,822,233
Bahrain 42 1,701,575
Croatia 43 4,105,267
Qatar 44 2,881,053
Kuwait 45 4,270,571
Barbados 46 287,375
Thailand 47 69,799,978
Czech Republic 48 10,708,981
Malaysia 49 32,365,999
Poland 50 37,846,611
Dominican Republic 51 10,847,910
Tunisia 52 11,818,619
Jamaica 53 2,961,167
Venezuela 54 28,435,940
Albania 55 2,877,797
Seychelles 56 98,347
Paraguay 57 7,132,538
South Korea 58 51,269,185
Senegal 59 16,743,927
Philippines 60 109,581,078
Mexico 61 128,932,753
Slovakia 62 5,459,642
Egypt 63 102,334,404
Kazakhstan 64 18,776,707
Uruguay 65 3,473,730
Hungary 66 9,660,351
Trinidad And Tobago 67 1,399,488
Saint Lucia 68 183,627
Belize 69 397,628
Turkey 70 84,339,067
Nicaragua 71 6,624,554
Belarus 72 9,449,323
Lithuania 73 2,722,289
Saint Vincent And The Grenadines 74 110,940
Argentina 75 45,195,774
Sri Lanka 76 21,413,249
Estonia 77 1,326,535
Guatemala 78 17,915,568
Ukraine 79 43,733,762
Solomon Islands 80 686,884
Algeria 81 43,851,044
Palau 82 18,094
Jordan 83 10,203,134
Mauritius 84 1,271,768
Grenada 85 112,523
Antigua And Barbuda 86 97,929
Libya 87 6,871,292
Bangladesh 88 164,689,383
Bosnia And Herzegovina 90 3,280,819
Lebanon 91 6,825,445
Indonesia 92 273,523,615
Iran 93 83,992,949
Bahamas 94 393,244
Panama 95 4,314,767
Fiji 96 896,445
Benin 97 12,123,200
Nauru 98 10,824
Romania 99 19,237,691
Saint Kitts And Nevis 100 53,199

PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
11. YOU hate hearing it????
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:52 AM
Mar 2020

Howdya think I feel? In three health-risk groups...67 years old....am an employee rather than an owner of a healthcare practice. Essentially nonessential.

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