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intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:42 AM Mar 2020

Maybe we as a society come out the other end better off?

I've said this before, but this may really be a once in a multiple generation to have a societal paradigm shift, for the better. It's up to us

When vast swaths of Americans see that the world didn't end when they stepped off the treadmill for a few moments, when businesses realized they can adjust to having a substantial portion of their workforce telecommute, when millions finally see first hand the value of a strong public health policy and infrastructure, and that it's not "socialism" but sound social structure, maybe the scales start falling away from our collective eyes, the spell that the corporate and political class have hoodwinked us into trading our lives for starts to crack, when we experience again for more than a brief weekend what it's like to spend time with our families not on a hurried vacation but at home. Well, maybe we will all realize at once that things don't have to be the way we have allowed them to become. That we can slow it all down and if corporations have to settle for smaller profits, so be it.

Maybe we, those of us that make it, come out the other side with a renewed sense of how things could be. You won't get another chance like this.

Maybe?

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Maybe we as a society come out the other end better off? (Original Post) intrepidity Mar 2020 OP
Maybe. It will be a hard sell for 2 billion people who have gotten used to more than $2 / day Recursion Mar 2020 #1
I hear that. But an inflection point like this intrepidity Mar 2020 #2
sure thing... let's use the misery of others lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #3
There's a difference between orchestrating it intrepidity Mar 2020 #4
actually no there isn't. lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #5
Yeah, ok, I failed to communicate properly intrepidity Mar 2020 #6
Agreed Sherman A1 Mar 2020 #10
We came out of the 1918 Spanish Flu and the safeinOhio Mar 2020 #7
Except for a world war in 10 years would be the last war... Lock him up. Mar 2020 #8
Maybe. Probably be some short term reevaluations. captain queeg Mar 2020 #9
maybe - but I'm pessimistic Locrian Mar 2020 #11

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. Maybe. It will be a hard sell for 2 billion people who have gotten used to more than $2 / day
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:50 AM
Mar 2020

Because the new developing world middle class's existence is predicated on the developed world staying on that treadmill. But we'll see.

intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
2. I hear that. But an inflection point like this
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:53 AM
Mar 2020

just doesn't come along, like,... ever.

Either we use it, or it all just reverts, and possibly worsens.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
3. sure thing... let's use the misery of others
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:59 AM
Mar 2020

not to mention the deaths of potentially hundreds of thousands to millions more so we can have a little social justice. Right?

Sort of how the Nazi's used the great depression to try their little experiment in fascism.

Yeah team!

intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
4. There's a difference between orchestrating it
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:02 AM
Mar 2020

and making the best of a bad situation.

But thanks for the generous sentiment.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
5. actually no there isn't.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:10 AM
Mar 2020

taking advantage of a bad situation to further political interests is just down right scummy.

We need to be helping each other to get back on our feet and back to doing what we were doing.

If you really have a better way then explain it, run for office on it, and if you win, well then you get to try it.

safeinOhio

(32,674 posts)
7. We came out of the 1918 Spanish Flu and the
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:39 AM
Mar 2020

1929 market crash, only it took a world war and many years. Then it happened again a 100 years later.

Lock him up.

(6,928 posts)
8. Except for a world war in 10 years would be the last war...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:55 AM
Mar 2020

... the human race would not survive.

But given the large devastations from climate change that are coming next. Ouch.

captain queeg

(10,185 posts)
9. Maybe. Probably be some short term reevaluations.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:31 AM
Mar 2020

But we, at least Americans, don’t seem to retain lessons learned very long. Look at Afghanistan and Iraq. Much like Vietnam. McCarthyism much the the current anti liberal and anti science. This is going to be global so it’s really hard to predict much.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
11. maybe - but I'm pessimistic
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:55 AM
Mar 2020

If this isn't a call for overhauling health care in the US I don't know what is.
But I don't see this as fixing it. Too many people have "got theirs and don't care" - ie medicare, company hc.

Everyone is freaked out - but it's because there's potential for *anyone* to get it. When 65000+ die each year from lack of hc... not so much concern.

Bad morning....haven't had my coffee...




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