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Does anyone know why there are so few covid19 cases in India? NT (Original Post) AJT Mar 2020 OP
Testing or reporting, maybe? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #1
That would be my guess SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #12
cuz India has no clue how many they have? nt msongs Mar 2020 #2
Chicken vindaloo PJMcK Mar 2020 #3
Sounds yummy AJT Mar 2020 #4
It is not the chicken doing the job, it is loads of curry at140 Mar 2020 #10
yes, testing.... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #5
Yes, I know all the reasons why India with 1350 million people has about 100 infections at140 Mar 2020 #6
Interesting. AJT Mar 2020 #7
i think its testing! there are anyhow many people dying due to not access to medical care MyNameIsKhan Mar 2020 #11
Uh... no. No testing. defacto7 Mar 2020 #14
There are also no mass deaths occurring as you would expect in a country at140 Mar 2020 #16
We'll see I guess. I hope it's that simple but I don't defacto7 Mar 2020 #19
Also see post #8 which correctly tells what India did early in the game at140 Mar 2020 #20
Mumbai has 25,000 deaths a year from waterborne illnesses Recursion Mar 2020 #45
and in spite of all the disease related deaths, population keeps growing fast! at140 Mar 2020 #47
500 immigrants move to Mumbai from the countryside every day Recursion Mar 2020 #49
I was referring to the overall population of India. at140 Mar 2020 #51
All of those things are also true in Wuhan. meadowlander Mar 2020 #35
When covid-19 erupted in Wuhan (last Nov), it was much colder weather there at140 Mar 2020 #41
Cases spiked in February in Wuhan which is why I was looking at the weather then. meadowlander Mar 2020 #44
Entirely possible, but I am not hearing much about covid-19 at140 Mar 2020 #48
It looks like they've cracked down really hard almost from the beginning. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #8
They got too of it in a hurry! Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #9
I'm not buying it anymore than Russia. India's leader is kinda Trumpy. Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #13
Pure Trumpy defacto7 Mar 2020 #15
"I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault." Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #18
Coronavirus hates turmeric SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #17
Every time I got flu as a kid, my Indian mom made me a drink at140 Mar 2020 #22
😁 I eat a lot of Indian food now (American White boy) SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #25
I love cumin, cardamom, coriander. 😍 sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #30
👍😍 SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #31
😁 sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #37
Golden milk? MontanaMama Mar 2020 #32
What a beneficent fortuitous exchange here regarding this spicy milk. Yah! eom sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #39
Yeah. That's it. 12 herbs and spices. Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #23
A friend of indian origin sent me that Renew Deal Mar 2020 #27
That's weird, because coronavirus cannot get enough of Trump, and he's the same color... RockRaven Mar 2020 #29
Turmeric, garlic, ginger, coriander meadowlander Mar 2020 #36
Two of the highest countries in garlic consumption per capita are Italy and China jberryhill Mar 2020 #52
It's the turmeric and ginger Dream Girl Mar 2020 #54
In mainland China, meadowlander Mar 2020 #56
Yes China is a big country and American Chines is is mostly Cantonese, Hunan, Szechuan Dream Girl Mar 2020 #57
They're blocking cruise ships ecstatic Mar 2020 #21
My friend in Pune says they're not testing. She is self isolated at home. littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #24
I hope she makes through too. AJT Mar 2020 #26
Thanks AJT. I appreciate your kind words. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #28
I was tested today, but won't have results until tomorrow. AJT Mar 2020 #33
I'm hoping that you get good news. Please take care of yourself. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #34
Prayers for you, dear one. ☦ sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #38
Thank you sweet sprinkleeninow. AJT Mar 2020 #40
Even if God-forbid it comes back positive, at140 Mar 2020 #43
I hope we make through too, that post is mildly condescending Dream Girl Mar 2020 #55
Hottest month where I grew up in Western India was May, not July at140 Mar 2020 #42
The weather patterns and precipitation vary regionally Recursion Mar 2020 #46
I think you are entirely correct. at140 Mar 2020 #50
Turmeric. I have a pot of golden milk on stove right now. Dream Girl Mar 2020 #53

SCantiGOP

(13,860 posts)
12. That would be my guess
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:39 PM
Mar 2020

Large slums full of desperately poor people has to be the ideal environment for maximum infection.
China has always been an enemy; let’s hope they have the will and the courage to step in and help.
God knows the USA can no longer serve that role.

at140

(6,110 posts)
10. It is not the chicken doing the job, it is loads of curry
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:35 PM
Mar 2020

Curry powder is made from turmeric+coriander+ginger+chili....all have anti-bacterial proerties.
Turmeric is a good natural expectorant, may be helping expel covid virus before it sets up a colony in lungs.

at140

(6,110 posts)
6. Yes, I know all the reasons why India with 1350 million people has about 100 infections
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:24 PM
Mar 2020

1. It is already excruciatingly hot there, virus has no chance to survive outside of human body
Unlike United States, hottest month in India are APril-May. Monsoons show up in June-July and cool down the air
2. Indians do NOT shake hands, the greetings is namaste.
3. Indians live in low quality sanitary conditions, which boosts their resistance to various diseases
4. India is carefully checking people coming from infected areas.
5. Curry is a great killer of bacteria and may be viruses. (Turmeric+coriander+ginger+chili powder)

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
11. i think its testing! there are anyhow many people dying due to not access to medical care
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:38 PM
Mar 2020

When do many people defecate in open, this virus must be there.

at140

(6,110 posts)
16. There are also no mass deaths occurring as you would expect in a country
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:06 PM
Mar 2020

20 times bigger than Italy and 15 times bigger than Iran.
AT least 300 million Indians can speak English and have cell phones.
If covid-19 was killing people at the rate of Italy or Iran, it would be all over social media.

at140

(6,110 posts)
20. Also see post #8 which correctly tells what India did early in the game
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:17 PM
Mar 2020

which is to quickly cancel all visa's from affected countries. Better to stop the infected people, then testing is not as critical.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
45. Mumbai has 25,000 deaths a year from waterborne illnesses
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:08 PM
Mar 2020

A slow burn might not even rise above the noise there. Though, I don't even want to think about what would happen if this spread quickly in Dharavi or Basanti.

at140

(6,110 posts)
47. and in spite of all the disease related deaths, population keeps growing fast!
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:13 PM
Mar 2020

I don't know if the gov't still does it, but at one time you got paid for going through a vasectomy.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
49. 500 immigrants move to Mumbai from the countryside every day
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:17 PM
Mar 2020

It's not so much the birth rate as that

at140

(6,110 posts)
51. I was referring to the overall population of India.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:24 PM
Mar 2020

It just keeps growing and growing. And the average age keeps dropping.
If there is one thing I enjoy more than anything else in USA is so many peaceful and quiet places to live.
My house has dense woods behind the back yard. No traffic noise whatsoever.
Last time I was in India it was loud traffic noise beginning at 5 am in the house where I grew up.
It was nothing like that when I left in 1960.

meadowlander

(4,385 posts)
35. All of those things are also true in Wuhan.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:46 PM
Mar 2020

It’s lack of testing/reporting or somehow winning the travelling vector jackpot.

at140

(6,110 posts)
41. When covid-19 erupted in Wuhan (last Nov), it was much colder weather there
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:27 PM
Mar 2020

and by the time it began arriving in India in March, it was already very hot there.
Chinese do not consume anywhere near the amount of turmeric consumed by Indians.

meadowlander

(4,385 posts)
44. Cases spiked in February in Wuhan which is why I was looking at the weather then.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

Curry (Gali 咖喱 ) is a very popular dish in China (where I lived for five years) and certainly I almost never saw a dish that didn't include ginger, garlic and cilantro. Those are all staples in the Chinese diet.

It gets very hot in Central China and Iran and Brazil and Italy and Spain and Malaysia and Australia (where it's the height of summer at the moment).

There's no evidence that either temperature or diet affects the spread of the disease.

There is evidence that Modi's government is corrupt and that India lacks the healthcare infrastructure of some of the other countries (like South Korea) that are successfully containing the spread.

Therefore it is a lot more likely that the issue stems from lack of testing than the magic healing powers of turmeric.

at140

(6,110 posts)
48. Entirely possible, but I am not hearing much about covid-19
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:17 PM
Mar 2020

from the few relatives I still keep in touch with in India.
This coming September will be 60 years since I am in US and 50 years since becoming a US citizen.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,496 posts)
8. It looks like they've cracked down really hard almost from the beginning.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020
India has reported around 125 cases of the coronavirus, and it is a bit of a mystery how the world’s second-most-populous nation, with 1.3 billion people, has remained relatively unscathed while the number of cases explodes to its east and west. That has spawned a sense of almost disbelief about the crisis in some quarters.

Doctors say it is either that there are many more cases in India than have been detected, because of the difficulties of getting tested, or that India has indeed managed to so far escape the worst, possibly because of quick and strict efforts right from the start.

In Kerala, in the south, the authorities used GPS technology, CCTV footage and mobile phone records to trace the movements of one Indian family believed to be among the first infected here. They returned from Italy in late February, and within days, medical teams fanned out to all the places they had visited including banks, restaurants and churches and quickly quarantined just about everyone they had come in contact with — nearly 1,000 people.

India was also one of the first nations to essentially shut its borders, canceling visas and denying entry to all but a select few foreigners. Some states, such as Kerala, are beginning to beef up internal borders, taking the temperature of passengers in cars and screening people on trains.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/world/asia/india-coronavirus.html

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
18. "I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault."
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:07 PM
Mar 2020

Test no evil see no evil.


at140

(6,110 posts)
22. Every time I got flu as a kid, my Indian mom made me a drink
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:23 PM
Mar 2020

of hot milk with loads of turmeric, which I hated of course. But it always helped get better faster.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
25. 😁 I eat a lot of Indian food now (American White boy)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:26 PM
Mar 2020

And when I cook beans or lentils I load with cumin and turmeric

RockRaven

(14,863 posts)
29. That's weird, because coronavirus cannot get enough of Trump, and he's the same color...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:30 PM
Mar 2020

The world is a mysterious place...

meadowlander

(4,385 posts)
36. Turmeric, garlic, ginger, coriander
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:48 PM
Mar 2020

All staples of Chinese food too especially the further west you go.

It’s the lack of testing, not magic ingredients in curry.

meadowlander

(4,385 posts)
56. In mainland China,
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:51 PM
Mar 2020

curry is a very popular dish, especially in hot pot restaurants. I ate it at least on a weekly basis with friends when I lived there. Thinking back more or less any group meal I ate in a restaurant included at least one curry dish (generally curried beef and potatoes or curry hot pot).

It's not as common in Chinese restaurants in America because (obviously) when Americans go to Chinese restaurants they want "Chinese" food - fried rice and sweet and sour pork. But there is a huge diversity of regional cuisines in China which reflect a number of ethnic groups. China borders India and they share some common dishes. We also don't think of KFC as being "Chinese" but that doesn't mean people in China don't consume a lot of fried chicken.

And literally every single dish in China contains ginger. If it had any impact on Covid-19, why were cases spiking there?

There's no evidence that anything other than medical and social interventions (like testing and social distancing) have any impact on the spread of Covid-19 and it's frankly irresponsible at this point to be speculating that there is some magic dietary ingredient that will protect people from getting it or improve their outcomes.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
57. Yes China is a big country and American Chines is is mostly Cantonese, Hunan, Szechuan
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:00 PM
Mar 2020

I don’t Know China very well, but I thinking of curries containing Turkic as more regional. In India it’s everywhere

ecstatic

(32,631 posts)
21. They're blocking cruise ships
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:21 PM
Mar 2020

and probably flights as well. I assume there's a lack of testing though...

littlemissmartypants

(22,498 posts)
24. My friend in Pune says they're not testing. She is self isolated at home.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:25 PM
Mar 2020

She is also very worried. Police are asking shops,restaurants to voluntarily close but she says she's not hopeful. She's such a lovely person. I hope she makes it through.

at140

(6,110 posts)
43. Even if God-forbid it comes back positive,
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:38 PM
Mar 2020

remember the best fighter against any virus is your own body.
Anti-biotics work only with bacterial infections.
So give your body what it needs to produce lots of anti-bodies which will know how to identify the virus and kill it.
Eat nutritious foods, get plenty of sleep, keep well hydrated, do deep breathing exercise before and after bed time, avoid alcohol and no smoking!
And consume turmeric in any form, it is a natural expectorant which helps expel bad stuff from lungs.

at140

(6,110 posts)
42. Hottest month where I grew up in Western India was May, not July
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:33 PM
Mar 2020

The covid-19 will perish in India by mid-April. It is crazy hot there by then.
The monsoons show up mid-June, and with it came wonderful cooler air. and much needed rain.
In my town only rain we ever received was from June-September. Totally dry rest of year.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
46. The weather patterns and precipitation vary regionally
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:10 PM
Mar 2020

In Bengal and the Northeast they get a reverse monsoon off the Bay that comes in December. And in the Deccan there are areas where it can rain any time of the year.

at140

(6,110 posts)
50. I think you are entirely correct.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:20 PM
Mar 2020

Since leaving India 60 years ago, what I miss most is the more flavorful tomatoes, mangoes, jack fruit, and apples.
When an apple was cut, the entire room was filled with the aroma. But I do not miss the over-crowded markets and streets.

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