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angrychair

(8,699 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:48 PM Mar 2020

Trump is picking a fight with China

What the hell is going on??

Why is he doing that?

What is this nonsense about "china saying our military gave them the virus"

And

Yet again babbling nonsense about TARIFFS...why is he so fucking stupid.

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Trump is picking a fight with China (Original Post) angrychair Mar 2020 OP
Again . . . Iliyah Mar 2020 #1
He's mad malaise Mar 2020 #2
China is sending us billions in tariffs? Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2020 #3
Right!! angrychair Mar 2020 #5
He needs an enemy to shift the focus off of his own massive failings. PA Democrat Mar 2020 #4
Tensions are escalating sop Mar 2020 #13
Having tried to sound conciliatory for one day is too much. gordianot Mar 2020 #6
He thinks that's how Alacritous Crier Mar 2020 #7
Yep. Prepare for air strikes on Beijing Walleye Mar 2020 #9
China's infectious disease specialists are helping European Mike 03 Mar 2020 #8
China is saying that. Renew Deal Mar 2020 #10
Sorry, you will have to explain angrychair Mar 2020 #12
It's a CT being pushed by one diplomat... Lancero Mar 2020 #14
I did see that angrychair Mar 2020 #20
Which, honestly, makes it a bit more likely imo. Lancero Mar 2020 #24
Andrea Greenspan just confirmed that China has claimed that, for what it's worth. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2020 #15
Tm Cotton is one thing malaise Mar 2020 #11
just now handmade34 Mar 2020 #16
Right angrychair Mar 2020 #17
PEOPLE SHOULD NOT EAT BATS. PROBLEM SOLVED! Coventina Mar 2020 #21
exactly bdamomma Mar 2020 #25
military athletic games in Wuhan China in late Oct. avlbeerfan Mar 2020 #18
Sure angrychair Mar 2020 #23
He needs to be careful. bamagal62 Mar 2020 #19
And pretty much every non-food item at Walmart dalton99a Mar 2020 #22
always blaming someone else bdamomma Mar 2020 #26
Master Distractor thinks he can make us forget what a f*ckup he is Hassler Mar 2020 #27

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
5. Right!!
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:53 PM
Mar 2020

I mean seriously, the man is supposed to have a degree from a top tier business school and been in business for decades but STILL be completely ignorant of the basics of business and international trade.

sop

(10,177 posts)
13. Tensions are escalating
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:08 PM
Mar 2020

(Beijing, CNN Business) "China has announced it will expel journalists from three US media outlets (New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal) in a major escalation of tensions with Washington."

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
6. Having tried to sound conciliatory for one day is too much.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:53 PM
Mar 2020

It builds up and burst forth like explosive diarrhea.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
8. China's infectious disease specialists are helping European
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:56 PM
Mar 2020

countries, so this is incredibly stupid. I'm sure if they offered us help he'd refuse.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
12. Sorry, you will have to explain
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:59 PM
Mar 2020

I've never read that China said our military gave the virus to china. The first I heard that was yesterday out of trump's mouth

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
14. It's a CT being pushed by one diplomat...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:15 PM
Mar 2020

Which, itself, was likely a response to earlier CTs pushed by a US senator saying that this is a bioweapon created by China.

Edit - Specifically though, the Chinese diplomat isn't claiming that the military deployed the virus or that it was being used as a weapon. He's saying that patient Zero was likely a member of the US military who had visited Wuhan for the Military World Games that were hosted back in October.

As far as theories go, the Chinese one has some merit given the US flu cases that have since been reclassified as Covid cases. The theory being pushed by the US senator, however, is complete bull.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
20. I did see that
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:41 PM
Mar 2020

Since I wrote that...went looking. I normally don't look. Hate conspiracy theories.

An article about the World Military Games in October of 2019 and first case documented in November.

Dont know enough about genetics to know if it is possible to narrow down the origins of a virus like that.

Will say that this is a novel coronavirus that only happens when a virus makes that transition from animal to human.

Human patient "0" would have had to get it from an animal that was infected, from its faeces or by eating it.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
24. Which, honestly, makes it a bit more likely imo.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 08:29 PM
Mar 2020

Go visit China, do touristy things. See the sights, eat random animals from random street vendors. Pray to god you don't get food poisoning. Probably get ya stomach pumped when the random shit you ate doesn't sit right with you.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
16. just now
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:17 PM
Mar 2020

Richard Engel (paraphrased) "the Virus is not Chinese, it came from bat.... it is a bat virus" so I think we can call it the "trump batshit virus"

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
17. Right
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:24 PM
Mar 2020

To be blunt I hate that he did he that as much as trump saying "China"

Bats play incredibly important roles in mitigating deadly bug populations and pollination.

Bats didn't do this either.

People should not eat bats. Problem solved.

 

avlbeerfan

(52 posts)
18. military athletic games in Wuhan China in late Oct.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:31 PM
Mar 2020

Back in late Oct. they had some kind of world military athletic games in Wuhan some of the participants later came down with a respiratory ailment and pneumonia.
I think it was China`s military chief who first brought this up.

The Corona started earlier than Dec but its hard to pin it down.
Im sure a google search would have the exact quote.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
23. Sure
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:48 PM
Mar 2020

But the virus would have had to originate in a animal, mutated and transition to a human. Literally what the "novel" part means.
Human patient "0" would have had to get it from an animal that was infected, from its faeces or by eating it.

I don't think its productive to point fingers.
We just need to mitigate or stop behavior that could cause issues like this. No "blaming" is necessary.

Hassler

(3,377 posts)
27. Master Distractor thinks he can make us forget what a f*ckup he is
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:00 PM
Mar 2020

With his collosal incompetence and colossal lying on the Trump Virus and the coming Trump Depression.

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