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Celerity

(43,344 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:42 PM Mar 2020

No, COVID-19 Coronavirus Was Not Bioengineered. Here's The Research That Debunks That Idea

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/17/covid-19-coronavirus-did-not-come-from-a-lab-study-shows-natural-origins/#593bd0803728

Don’t you just love conspiracy theories? Especially when two groups of people have pretty much the same conspiracy theory about each other? Some folks including politicians in the U.S. and China have both suggested that the COVID-19 coronavirus (SARS-CoV2) that’s causing the pandemic may actually be a bioweapon that was manufactured in a lab. The only difference between their conspiracy theories is who’s being accused of doing the manufacturing.

On the one corner are some people in the U.S. who are hinting or in some cases openly claiming that China put together this virus. For example, look at what Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) tweeted out back on January 30:


Then, Steve Mosher wrote on February 22 an opinion piece for the New York Post entitled, “Don’t buy China’s story: The coronavirus may have leaked from a lab.” Take a wild guess at what Mosher wrote about in his piece. By the way, Mosher is not a biomedical scientist, but instead is the president of the Population Research Institute and author of book called Bully of Asia: Why China’s ‘Dream’ Is the New Threat to World Order. So chances are that he didn’t love China in the first place. But who knows, love works in mysterious ways.

So what evidence have Cotton, Mosher, and others provided to support these suggestions or claims? Incriminating pictures? Suspicious emails? Some awkward selfies? Any kind of scientific evidence?

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No, COVID-19 Coronavirus Was Not Bioengineered. Here's The Research That Debunks That Idea (Original Post) Celerity Mar 2020 OP
Conspiracy kooks will dismiss this evidence as part of the conspiracy. John Fante Mar 2020 #1
can't fix stupid........... Celerity Mar 2020 #2
like Col. Flagg of MASH treestar Mar 2020 #9
Problem is that won't stop someone else from tinkering with it now ansible Mar 2020 #3
The real problem is that Darwin is already tinkering with it intrepidity Mar 2020 #4
Not really kurtcagle Mar 2020 #6
Assuming it doesn't mutate like the Spanish flu did ansible Mar 2020 #7
A mutation that doubles the R naught would be devastating intrepidity Mar 2020 #8
I'm glad to know it. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #5
Vote Tom Cotton out rockfordfile Mar 2020 #10
Has anyone been following this rumor lately? Rstrstx Apr 2020 #11

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
1. Conspiracy kooks will dismiss this evidence as part of the conspiracy.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:44 PM
Mar 2020

There is no getting through to them.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. like Col. Flagg of MASH
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:39 PM
Mar 2020

finding out it is just a card game means all the card game players are unknowing parts of the conspiracy - "this is bigger than all of you!"

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
3. Problem is that won't stop someone else from tinkering with it now
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:50 PM
Mar 2020

The infection rate of this virus is incredible, it's the perfect bioweapon

intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
4. The real problem is that Darwin is already tinkering with it
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:58 PM
Mar 2020

Another really, really, REALLY good reason to avoid infection, is to deny the virus the opportunity to replicate billions of copies, which will include millions of mutations, mutations that will include an even worse, more deadly version. The longer this virus is unchecked in the wild, the more likely it will mutated to a worse version.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
6. Not really
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:27 PM
Mar 2020

Viruses usually tend to mutate into forms that allow for greatest replication. Killing the host tends to work in nature because animals eating other animals is common. Modern humans don't leave corpses to spread disease, so killing the host is counterproductive. Over time Covid19 will mutate into something that isn't as lethal, and humans will build up a resistance.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
7. Assuming it doesn't mutate like the Spanish flu did
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:29 PM
Mar 2020

Spanish flu wasn't even that deadly at first, it was after it mutated into a deadlier strain that it started killing millions.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
11. Has anyone been following this rumor lately?
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:00 AM
Apr 2020

I stumbled onto an article tonight saying that the British government now cannot rule out the possibility that the virus is naturally occurring but may have been released from a lab in Wuhan, probably inadvertently. The story is starting to spread beyond the usual tinfoil conspiracy sites, though I see no record of it on Fox. Can anyone point to some rebuttals to this argument?

To add to the conspiracy element this paper was supposedly set to publish in February before being pulled:

https://img-prod.tgcom24.mediaset.it/images/2020/02/16/114720192-5eb8307f-017c-4075-a697-348628da0204.pdf

If Judge Jeanine sobers up enough to get wind of this the shrill will be unbearable.

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