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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump still polling over 40%
WTF America? Just WTF?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
To think this crisis means the end to Trump is wishful thinking.
Just wait till everyone gets their $1000. I am very worried about November.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)Turin_C3PO
(13,991 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)if I'm alive in November I'll worry about the poll then.
Turin_C3PO
(13,991 posts)I hope were all alive to vote this asshole out in November.
ananda
(28,859 posts)I'm not even sure elections will be held in November.
edhopper
(33,576 posts)what we are all going through till then.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)I stick with whats in front of us at the moment and get through that.
Turin_C3PO
(13,991 posts)and the full extent of this crisis is laid bare, his approval rating will drop to 37%, like it was for a bit in 2017. Actually, as long as it stays below 45%, he wont win re-election. Biden has the Obama coalition plus a fair chunk of the white working class. Polls right now show Biden ahead by 9-10 points. Im fairly confident Trump is going to lose, big time.
edhopper
(33,576 posts)I worry about the Electoral College.
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)Sorry, but after 2016, we cannot afford to be "confident" about anything that has to do with Trump. Putin is still out there, and he knows that a Democratic president and congress will turn up the heat on him and his friends. He has a lot to lose with President Biden.
Turin_C3PO
(13,991 posts)to beat Trump. I definitely dont disagree with that. But I do believe that hell be in a bad position to win re-election as things stand now. Things could change but Im cautiously optimistic about our chances.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)We really should know that by now. They're living in a different reality when none of this is his fault and the Democrats are still to blame for everything.
We have to understand it and plan accordingly, which means turnout, turnout, turnout. That could, of course, be a bit of a challenge by the time November rolls around, but it applies to his supporters, as well.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)that Parscale has hacked into the polling companies databases. The 40% basement seems to be contrary to human nature.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Which makes sense mathematically. 90% of the Rs, plus the majority of right-leaning independents.
As I noted above, they're not going to bail on him when the only sources they have for news are telling them that nothing is ever Don's fault and that Democrats are blame for everything.
Turin_C3PO
(13,991 posts)like I said in a previous post, 37% is probably the lowest he can go. And I do expect him to hit that low when all is said and done. Well see, though, we will definitely need all hands on deck to get Trump out of office.
Polybius
(15,411 posts)But why was W Bush's floor so much lower? I remember him polling much lower around 2006-2008 or so.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Bush's approval rating dove largely because of the financial crisis, when even conservatives bailed on him.
I think Trump's is higher in part because the perception (not necessarily reality) is that the economy is decent, unemployment is low, the stock market was up, etc. Of course, that's all in for a major test now with CV.
I also think that the GOP has become even more hyperpartisan and a lot of it is just kneejerk defense of "their" guy. Plus, he's given many what they wanted anyway - conservative judges, tax cuts, etc. They may not agree with his methods, but he's doing what they want.
jayfish
(10,039 posts)People are dumb. I just interacted with a group of them this morning. They were espousing Trumps sick "sleepy Joe" burn from yesterday while prepping for today's briefing. I haven't met a single Trump person who has changed their mind on him.
edhopper
(33,576 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,762 posts)Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)The scream the loudest, but 40% seems like the lowest percent of mouth breathing imbeciles I meet in person or am exposed to online.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)andym
(5,443 posts)Fox News, Rush and other radio talkers. If they are somehow able to push their influence over 50% we would be in even deeper trouble than we are now. Something has to be done about them.
Celerity
(43,350 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)and they sound relatively rational and focused. Then Trump shoves himself in front and starts blathering about how he's been abused and the media is mean to him and he is right always... and the market immediately drops, and so, I think, does his approval with anyone but his base.
He looks like an angry idiot.
'You don't know the numbers. YOU DON"T KNOW! You don't know!" There's all this aggression and gorilla dominance. I have the numbers and you don't!
No one who isn't already approving of him will approve now.
And he's saying the reporters should be farther away from each other, while he's hanging right over the other people on the stage.
I agree, though, if "he" sends checks out, some people might be swayed by that. So if that's going to be happening, I hope it's soon so that the effect wears off.
ismnotwasm
(41,979 posts)They think its overblown, and that the response is ridiculous
And personally I never, ever underestimate racism.
ooky
(8,922 posts)A lot of his support is because of "guns" or "socialism" or other such nonsense so they say they approve of him because of their ideological perspectives. But, to actually look at what he has done and say its good, one would have to have the reasoning ability of an amoeba to do that.
JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)that show his reaction to this when we could have been working on tests, respirators, contingency planning...
Millions may die because of "Democrat hoax, media blowing this way out of proportion, this will be gone very soon, vaccine almost ready, totally under control..."
How many lives will be lost because of his total failure to act?
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)anti-Democrat.
They would support anyone as the alternative to the Democrats.
I think there are two main reasons for this: one, if you have spent your life hating the left you cant consider switching at this point without feeling like a complete fool; and two, nothing else matters more than maintaining control of this country by white people.
LBJ said that we had lost the South for a generation when he signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. We are now in the third generation since then and the South is still hostile, and every other state has its own group of hateful racists who are motivated by fear of losing control and privilege.
Lets just be hopeful and thankful that the number seems to have a ceiling in the low 40s.
2naSalit
(86,600 posts)I'm not accepting the polls anymore. Something is wrong and I think it's a ploy. Not sure how it's being done but I am pretty convinced that there is manipulation.
JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)I know plenty of brain-dead Trumpbots who think he is some sort of deity.
And I'm in Massachusetts.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)I assume you mean the 40%+ is too high.
In my neighborhood it would be about 75%; in my state it will probably be 55%.
When someone addresses their allegiance to trump with Its so much better than it was under Obama, you know there is a large supply of stupidity out there.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)No minds are being changed -- Anybody pro or anti Trump this late in the game will remain so through November...
no_hypocrisy
(46,100 posts)A charlatan (what else?) convinced countless numbers of parents throughout Europe to surrender their children to his care in order to take back Jerusalem from the infidel Muslims. The children were obedient and went with him. They were eventually sold into slavery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade
Polybius
(15,411 posts)His answer was something like "No matter if it's Trump or had it been Hillary, Covid-19 would still be here. It's all over the world, in liberal and conservative countries alike."
onecaliberal
(32,855 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)The cult will follow him to their graves
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)The conservative can never admit their error as it shows weakness.
mvd
(65,173 posts)The checks wont help him much when his incompetence and cruelty will lead to a recession he wont get us out of.
edhopper
(33,576 posts)WTF!!
I just don't get it?
DFW
(54,378 posts)It is a fact of political life in the USA that Charles Manson, AFTER running down Hollywood Boulevard slashing the throats of passers-by on live television, would poll at 40% as long as there was an "R" after his name, and he repented as a Christian.
It is an advantage Republicans have that we do not, and frankly one I hope we never DO have.
but his numbers are going UP! Not just staying at his 40%.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)He has all the worst priorities. He's a horrible leader.
edhopper
(33,576 posts)are stupid.