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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:10 PM Mar 2020

Ugh. Man died in CA after having been in Orlando for conf and theme parks

https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/19/34-year-old-california-man-dies-coronavirus-visited-disney-world-florida/
Jeffrey Ghazarian from Glendora, CA, died Thursday morning at a Pasadena hospital after spending 5 days hooked up to a ventilator and battling for his life ... according to his family.

His sister says ... "He suffered a lot and put up a good fight. We will miss our Jeff everyday but we are thankful for all the fun happy memories of the times we had together."

Jeff's timeline regarding his COVID-19 infection is terrifying and should be eye-opening for people of all ages. According to his family, he flew from L.A. to Orlando on March 2 for a work conference, but stayed a few extra days to visit Disney World and Universal theme parks with friends.

We're told on March 7 he developed a cough, and the next day he coughed up blood. He flew back to LAX on March 9 ... and immediately went to the ER, where he also had a high fever.
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Ugh. Man died in CA after having been in Orlando for conf and theme parks (Original Post) Roland99 Mar 2020 OP
Gleeps! Coventina Mar 2020 #1
RIP Mr. Ghazarian.... steve2470 Mar 2020 #2
The scenes from that last night at Disney World spinbaby Mar 2020 #7
yes we will nt steve2470 Mar 2020 #11
all those packed airports at other cities comes to mind, too Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #18
They think Mardi Gras is fueling a large outbreak in Louisiana GumboYaYa Mar 2020 #20
Clearwater is a single beach in Florida. There are many of them. rzemanfl Mar 2020 #14
yes I know, I live here steve2470 Mar 2020 #16
Did you just stay home? I hope! lunatica Mar 2020 #19
yes stayed home, thanks nt steve2470 Mar 2020 #53
I don't think the ferry to Caladesi is running. It wasn't yesterday. rzemanfl Mar 2020 #25
sorry you had to cope with the ignorant/dumb/defiant who passed by too close nt steve2470 Mar 2020 #54
Florida is likely a hotspot MoonlitKnight Mar 2020 #3
This map seems to line up with the health weather map above MoonlitKnight Mar 2020 #56
wow It is this type of description and time line that more people need to hear. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #4
Wow, only 34 years old PatSeg Mar 2020 #5
24 year olds think they won't be coughing blood & have lung function down for life from scarring. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #51
I'm actually headed to Glendora in a while to clear out my storage locker. I'm gonna need that $200 BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #6
I gave birth to my daughter at that hospital in 1973. I'd been exiled to Pasadena (from Bakersfield) deurbano Mar 2020 #38
That's where I was born Granny M Mar 2020 #41
Small world! Best wishes from San Francisco during this scary and unpredictable time. deurbano Mar 2020 #48
He coughed up blood, then got on an airplane? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2020 #8
Had the same thought. n/t TDale313 Mar 2020 #10
Then why even say it? nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #23
My thoughts verbatim! Someone at the airport must've heard him coughing and kept him off Karadeniz Mar 2020 #29
This is a super spreader. And he knew it grantcart Mar 2020 #40
I'm confused. Things got worse the afternoon Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #9
who knows..sucks he wasn't admitted on the 9th!! Roland99 Mar 2020 #12
Wow...kinda scary... sdfernando Mar 2020 #13
I hope you're OK lunatica Mar 2020 #24
I was but just sort of. sdfernando Mar 2020 #32
The upside is that two weeks ago it wasn't as widespread so lunatica Mar 2020 #34
I was supposed to be flying back to Orlando from LA today Roland99 Mar 2020 #26
Stay safe my friend! sdfernando Mar 2020 #30
Yeah...I remember that. Roland99 Mar 2020 #31
Are they at least going to notify everyone on his flight to LAX-- BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #15
Yikes! I hope there weren't many people on the airplane. Crunchy Frog Mar 2020 #17
That's what Limbaugh calls simply a "version" of the common cold.... Bengus81 Mar 2020 #22
The earth should have given away Limbaugh instead of Jeffrey Ghazarian. He looked like a good person C Moon Mar 2020 #35
This is horrible. K&R for high visibility. bronxiteforever Mar 2020 #27
Florida is going to be a super spreader across the US bronxiteforever Mar 2020 #28
HE FLEW BACK TO LAX !! denem Mar 2020 #33
Yup. . That's why there were 45% more cases yesterday than the day before. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #45
Simple screening for fever (infrared torches) could have avoided this. denem Mar 2020 #46
Not standing up for the guy but..... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #47
Didn't say if he was uninsured or something prevented him from seeking care IronLionZion Mar 2020 #36
In his THIRTIES SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #37
Maybe that is why he stuck around in March when this virus spread was already public knowledge lunasun Mar 2020 #52
RIP karynnj Mar 2020 #39
He also knowlingly spread sickness in the parks for at least two days obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #44
he was 34 years old. barbtries Mar 2020 #42
He had cancer in 2016 and also got onto a plane after coughing blood obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #43
Could be the one who infected the TSA agent here Roland99 Mar 2020 #50
My friend who lives there agrees with you n/t obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #57
Horror greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #49
BETTER GET FUCKING USED TO IT! Brainfodder Mar 2020 #55

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
2. RIP Mr. Ghazarian....
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:17 PM
Mar 2020

I have a sick feeling that many who went to Disney and Universal are also going to get sick, and maybe die. The same goes for the people crowding the beaches at Clearwater.

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
7. The scenes from that last night at Disney World
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020

The photos showed crowds packed elbow to elbow. In about two weeks we’re going to see an outbreak from that.

GumboYaYa

(5,942 posts)
20. They think Mardi Gras is fueling a large outbreak in Louisiana
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:08 PM
Mar 2020

A team of wild horses could not drag me into a crowd these days!

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
14. Clearwater is a single beach in Florida. There are many of them.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:49 PM
Mar 2020

Clearwater got news coverage. I am not making excuses, just pointing out the facts.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
16. yes I know, I live here
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:50 PM
Mar 2020

The same goes for any crowded beach in Florida where social distancing was difficult or impossible.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
25. I don't think the ferry to Caladesi is running. It wasn't yesterday.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:16 PM
Mar 2020

Too many people in too little space.

I walked the beach at Honeymoon yesterday. Almost everyone kept distancing of at least six feet. There were a few dumbasses who passed by too close. I quickly started giving a wide berth to stupid looking people.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
4. wow It is this type of description and time line that more people need to hear.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:19 PM
Mar 2020

I'm not sure enough Americans realize how fast a person can deteriorate and all those people he has likely infected.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
6. I'm actually headed to Glendora in a while to clear out my storage locker. I'm gonna need that $200
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:22 PM
Mar 2020

a month that I'm paying way more than I need the stuff in there.

R.I.P. Mr Ghazarian. I wonder what hospital he was in. I was just in Huntington Hospital ( I go there often for business and have had 2 big surgeries there in the last 18 months) and the place was DESERTED, it's usually packed with folks coming and going.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
38. I gave birth to my daughter at that hospital in 1973. I'd been exiled to Pasadena (from Bakersfield)
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 05:09 PM
Mar 2020

by my parents since I was an embarrassing (about-to-be) teen mother. (Even though my mother had already dragged me to Las Vegas to marry the birth father... not that he was ever in the picture after the "wedding"!) I took a whole semester of summer classes at Pasadena City College (gave birth right before finals, so had to make those up), while watching Watergate hearings on the TV in my bedroom (I was staying with a family with six kids, but luckily had my own room) in my spare time.

At that time, Huntington Memorial was a pretty high end hospital. I still have the hospital menu which included a choice of red or white wine! One entree was pastitsio. I probably didn't choose that since I would have had no idea what it was. (My loss...)

Granny M

(1,395 posts)
41. That's where I was born
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 05:33 PM
Mar 2020

a very long time ago.....

Truly a frightening timeline and travel history. This is really getting ugly. We had a jump of 34% in new cases here in Ireland today. Our Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said on Sunday that this was the calm before the storm. We are healthy but staying home and away from everyone as much as possible.

Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #8)

Karadeniz

(22,515 posts)
29. My thoughts verbatim! Someone at the airport must've heard him coughing and kept him off
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:30 PM
Mar 2020

The plane. Now everyone on that plane has shared his recycled air.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
9. I'm confused. Things got worse the afternoon
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:27 PM
Mar 2020

of the 13th. I’m guessing that meant low O2 levels but he wasn’t taken to hospital until the 14th? And they knew he had pneumonia and Covid? How effing sick do you have to be before you get to go to the hospital?

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
13. Wow...kinda scary...
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:44 PM
Mar 2020

I flew from San Diego to Orlando for work on 3/3 but flew back on 3/4 as it was just to meet some vendors onsite to do a walk-thru and get quotes for an office expansion. I stayed in Lake Mary...didn't interact with a ton of people...but I was on 4 planes total...SD to Atlanta, Atlanta to Orlando, then back again. I didn't stay longer and didn't go to many places...but I did sit at the hotel bar and have dinner...it was Super-Tuesday and I sat and watched the results. That was 15 days ago and I'm not having any symptoms. Hope I dodge this thing!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
24. I hope you're OK
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:15 PM
Mar 2020

Evidently you were already social distancing quite a bit. The symptoms usually start to show in 12 days, so you’re probably OK.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
32. I was but just sort of.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:33 PM
Mar 2020

The bar had a lot of people in it...and I was surprised they had MSNBC on the TV. Had dinner and a Boulevardier, then went up to my room. Next day was busy in the office but kept distance where applicable. No way to avoid it on the plane though.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
34. The upside is that two weeks ago it wasn't as widespread so
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:49 PM
Mar 2020

the ittle bit of social distancing may have been adequate for that moment. The chances of being exposed have risen exponentially since then. Even on airplanes.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
26. I was supposed to be flying back to Orlando from LA today
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:18 PM
Mar 2020

Had a post-open project to work on at Disneyland and was supposed to fly out Sunday and return today.

Thursday night I was at work and me and a couple of other guys who were going to go had a conf call to discuss our options. I told them I didn't want to go (my wife and son have asthma and I'm not about to put them at any further type of risk). I told them my money was on the parks closing very soon anyway (and the next day was when the announcement was made to close all US parks)

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
30. Stay safe my friend!
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:31 PM
Mar 2020

I haven't been to a Disney Park and avoid as much of their products as I can...Was really pissed at them when they laid-off the entire IT staff at Disney World and made them train their H1-B replacements as a condition to getting severance pay (I work in IT so these were my bothers and sisters).....after Disney had 1 of their best years every. It was a fucking horrible thing to do...so I vowed never to set foot in the parks again, and avoid giving them my money if at all possible.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
31. Yeah...I remember that.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:33 PM
Mar 2020

I tried for years to get into IT...resume was a perfect fit for multiple positions...never got a call or email

So now I'm in engineering. Much better.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
15. Are they at least going to notify everyone on his flight to LAX--
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 03:49 PM
Mar 2020

the plane where he was coughing up blood?

Crunchy Frog

(26,582 posts)
17. Yikes! I hope there weren't many people on the airplane.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:03 PM
Mar 2020

I don't think they're really even testing yet in Florida.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
22. That's what Limbaugh calls simply a "version" of the common cold....
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:13 PM
Mar 2020

Says Pillboy:

The corona virus outbreak is being “weaponized” by the media to bring down Donald Trump when in fact it is simply a version of the “common cold”, the conservative radio host and presidential medal of freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh claimed on Monday.

And your stage 4 lung cancer is just basically having some difficulty breathing you asshat.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
35. The earth should have given away Limbaugh instead of Jeffrey Ghazarian. He looked like a good person
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:53 PM
Mar 2020

FaceBook page mentions before he was ill: City of Hope, and Senior Dogs donations.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
33. HE FLEW BACK TO LAX !!
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:46 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Thu Mar 19, 2020, 06:21 PM - Edit history (1)

He is symptomatic, coughing up blood, then decided - and was allowed to - take a commercial flight !

This country has had it. Cause of death: stupidity.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
45. Yup. . That's why there were 45% more cases yesterday than the day before.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 05:56 PM
Mar 2020

Qualifies for the Darwin award - unfortunately he almost certainly took others with him who don't qualify.

In my state, we just had someone travel to California and back with pneumona and a presumptive positive test. The family has remained silent (until he died) because they didn't want to panic people. So they left them exposed and exposing others.

His father had traveled recently to California.

Mr. Wagoner said his father had been fighting pneumonia while on his California trip, and so the family was cautious about disclosing his presumptive coronavirus diagnosis initially because “we didn’t want people to panic.”


https://www.toledoblade.com/news/medical/2020/03/19/lucas-county-attorney-mark-wagoner-sr-dies-from-presumptive-coronavirus-infection/stories/20200319111

I'm pissed that someone in my family (we're all at risk) might die because these idiots aren't bright enough (or don't care enough) to not get on a plane when they are showing symptoms of a pandemic illness, or to inform others IMMEDIATELY when someone shakes some sense into them.
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
46. Simple screening for fever (infrared torches) could have avoided this.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 06:02 PM
Mar 2020

They have been doing this in Asia since day 1. “we didn’t want people to panic” my ass .

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
47. Not standing up for the guy but.....
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 06:03 PM
Mar 2020

I get the sense in this situation people panic and just want to get home to their family, home and personal doctors so they disregard the risk. I've recently read a number of stories like this. People seem to have almost morbid fear of being in a strange place and losing control of their lives.

In a sane world, we might have private jets available just get sick people home when they're trapped. That's exactly what the ultra-wealthy do.

In an even more sane world, this fellow would have been tested before being allowed to fly a a commercial flight, then placed on a transport plane.

KY............

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
36. Didn't say if he was uninsured or something prevented him from seeking care
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 04:53 PM
Mar 2020

or maybe had an HMO without any out of network coverage. There are systemic and cultural problems in America causing sick people to avoid the hospital for too long, largely due to the costs.

Imagine if a sick person could go to any hospital anywhere in America and it would always be in network without any fees at the point of service. We might have different outcomes from these cases.

We need sick Americans to not fear going to the hospital.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
52. Maybe that is why he stuck around in March when this virus spread was already public knowledge
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 06:22 PM
Mar 2020

He may have thought I am not over 60 so I’ll go to DW + UNi for a few days

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
39. RIP
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 05:12 PM
Mar 2020

Though I know one should not speak negatively about the dead, but he really should have gone to an Orlando hospital. It could have helped him if he went in on the 8th when he was throwing up blood, but it is absolutely wrong that he boarded that plane given the circumstances. How many people did he expose on that plane?

Yes, I know he was young and with his family which would have had to face a choice of finding a place to stay or returning without him - a terrible choice.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
43. He had cancer in 2016 and also got onto a plane after coughing blood
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 05:44 PM
Mar 2020

For at least one day. Drove right to the airport after landing WITH A HIGH FEVER. He knowingly spread this at least the last two days at the parks, at the MCO airport, the shuttle or uber to the airport, in the plane, at his home airport, in his ride to the ER. JFC

wtaf

I feel very bad for his family.

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