Governor DeWine---apparently a swell guy as far as some here are concerned---was just

[Atticus]

on CNN and (this will be paraphrased) when asked if he was OK with Trump's answers about the shortages of masks and gloves and swabs, stated that one of his people had spoken with the White House by phone and he was assured that the president would "do all that is necessary".

Sadly, the Blitzer did not follow up with "And just HOW FUCKING LONG has the sonofabitch been assuring us that he WAS GOING TO "do all that is necessary"?

Carry on, Ohioans.

[Maeve]

1. He's not a swell guy, but...

he is trying to do right by the state and takes the crisis seriously. That said, he is also a lick-spittle when it comes to the tRump party.

Sort of a stand-up worm....

[Skittles]

19. somthing repukes do whenver anything might affect THEM

yup

[OneBlueDotBama]

2. Same here in South Carolina

McMaster, just said that the great President trump was moving heaven & earth to ensure bla, bla bla...

reality is no masks, no tests.. shut up people and let us continue out little charade.

[samplegirl]

3. I've always said

I’m glad he was taking the precautions for Ohioans.... but if he had to vote against trump or his party that would never happen! He’s still a true Republican!

[Ohiogal]

4. Well, of course he's going to say that!

He's a Republican! and they never disparage their dear Leader.

Just because he's shown leadership in his state over this one issue doesn't mean we're all falling in love with him!

But right now he's doing what he thinks is best for Ohio.

[gibraltar72]

5. And he's under reporting.

Even the R Governors that are doing proactive things won't criticize Trump. "It's not a time for fingerpointing".

[Ms. Toad]

10. Not sure what you mean by underreporting -

All tests results are reported, and the formal estimates for how many cases there are in Ohio are certainly not an underestimate (100,000 cases - at the time there were 3 documented cases).

As for communication, if that's what you are getting at, he holds a press conference that lasts between 1 & 2 hours every day, including Saturday and Sunday, and answers all questions. I have watched most of them, and haven't seen him dodge any he would be legally permitted to answer. (Justice O'Connor, on the other hand, was her usual abrupt, arrogant, and evasive self)

Frankly, as long as he's taking the steps necessary - and following the lead of the director of public health - I don't care what he says or doesn't say about Trump. I'm more concerned with saving lives than scoring political points.

[gibraltar72]

11. I don't believe the numbers same for Florida.

[Ms. Toad]

18. The numbers are a function of the fact that virtually no tests are available.

Because tests are not available, based on two community transmission cases, Dr. Acton publically, in a press conference at which DeWine was present, estimated that there were 100,000 cases in Ohio. That's a higher ratio of confirmed cases to estimated cases than I've seen. I wasn't able to find it earlier, but I'm pretty sure it was a Harvard epidemiologist who suggested 50 cases for every confirmed case.

Not sure what else you want him to do - no one can manufacture tests out of thin air, and you can't report what you can't confirm.

[Atticus]

12. Here's where we differ: in my view, if he isprotecting Trump by refusing to criticize even

his most obvious failures, he is not "taking the steps necessary" to save lives. This is not just "being a Republican". It is being---no offense intended--- a "toady".

[Ms. Toad]

17. Fine. He's a toady.

But he IS taking the steps necessary to save lives in this crisis.

Absolutely nothing I have said suggest that I think, as a general principle, he is a swell guy. I have been very clear - in virtually every comment I have made that in general I disagree with pretty much every position he holds (I'm not aware of any I agree with, but I don't know every single position).

Praising the commendable actions he is taking has zero to do with thinking he is a swell guy.

[BigDemVoter]

6. Wolf Shitzer. . .

Another worthless piece of shit.

[Ms. Toad]

7. That's pretty disingenuous.

Every statement I have made, or seen on DU, makes it clear that no one here thinks he is a swell guy, as a general matter.

That said, most of us in Ohio are impressed with his actions in response to this crisis.

Two very different things.

[Atticus]

15. "Disingenuous"?

"]DeWine has not been acting like a Republican in this crisis
He has been acting like someone concerned about the health of all of his constituents.

Sometimes a crisis brings out the best in people."

[Ms. Toad]

16. Precisely - and you are continuing it. What you quoted does not say he is a swell guy.

It says "in this crisis" he has not been "acting like a Republican."

Reading comprehension is an important skill. Nothing I said suggests I think DeWine is a swell guy. It says exactly what I said it did - his actions in this crisis are commendable.

[Atticus]

24. Of course, "swell guy" was a characterization. It was not in quotation marks and was

not intended to set out anyone's exact words, including yours---but, you knew that.

What you call "reading comprehension" seems more like retroactive parsing to me.

I will back away from this, I regret that we are at odds about this when I am certain there is much more upon which we agree. I hope you can enjoy the rest of your evening.

[Ms. Toad]

25. I think it is disingenuous to say it is retroactive parsing.

Any fair read of what I posted (in several threads) is a limited praise for the actions DeWine has taken to limit the transmission of COVID 19 in Ohio. Further, at least once in each thread I have expressly distanced myself from his political positions, in general. You are free to go back and check the dates on my other posts and check the edit history on each of them. Nothing about what I am saying is either retroactive or parsing.

I honestly don't know if we have more upon which we agree - my core values include recognizing and praising even those people with whom I disagree when they set aside politics and act in the best interests of their constitutents; those values also include being painstakingly careful not to mischaracterize what others say.

[Atticus]

29. OK---olive branch broken, thrown down and spat upon. Gotcha. nt

[Ms. Toad]

33. I'd have accepted an olive branch

that wasn't tied it to a suggestion I was retroactively parsing my prior comments.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

8. Rethugs dare not violate Reagan's 11th commandment and....

I seriously think tRump has instituted a 12th commandment: "Thou shalt bow down and pray to me each evening, precisely facing wherever I'm located and recite "Hail Trump" one-hundred times".

At least that's the way they behave.

KY.........

[renate]

9. in fairness, everybody in government knows that they have to tread carefully and kiss orange ass

They all saw what happened to the people of San Juan, Puerto Rico, after the mayor pissed Trump off. They know exactly who they're dealing with.

[madinmaryland]

13. I would expect lame ass shit from Leslie Blitzer.

[spanone]

14. He danced like a professional ballerina around that question.....

FUCK HIM.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

20. He's always been a weasely piece of shit. I haven't lived in OH for about

14 years. But I remember him.

[Initech]

21. Part of the reason this thing has escalated is because of the incompetence of the right wing.

If we had a competent government we could have stopped this thing before it started. But sadly assholes like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and their ilk are the reason why we can't have nice things.

[OhioChick]

22. I've been trying to get in touch with DeWine's office for weeks

In regard to my kid's safety and lack of protective clothing, masks, etc.

I've written him a plethora of times and called, nothing back.

I did hear back via phone from Sherrod Brown's office.

Nothing from Rob Portman and I've emailed and called many times.

Marcy Kaptur's office had a live town hall type meeting on the phone with a Q&A with me and many other constituents. Her office also called and spoke with me personally.

Nothing from DeWine or Portman and I've since tried calling and writing again and I'm one pissed off mother at this point.

[rockfordfile]

23. He is a typical pos un-American GOPer. A lot on him from years past

[LizBeth]

26. Ya, that whole delaying the primary was Republicans giving Sanders a hand after Sanders went on news

the night before to say that is what he needed.

[Ms. Toad]

34. That was a decision made by the Department of Health (not DeWine)

The overnight order from the Supreme Court was a unaminmous decision made by equal numbers of democrats and republicans. (3 Republican justices did not participate)

[getagrip_already]

27. So where are the strategic stockpiles going?

There millions of masks, gowns, gloves, respirators, lab equipment, etc in the emergency stores.

Where are they going? Are they being distributed or still in storage?

[GulfCoast66]

28. I've not seen one post regarding him as a swell guy. Or even a good guy.

But this is a fact based site. And the fact is on this one issue, that asshole is doing a better job than most governors.

He obviously believed his science experts and too dramatic action.

Do I like the fact it may help him become more electable? Hell no. But better than him pulling a trump and allowing the deaths of more Ohioans who are going to die anyway.

[Atticus]

30. So, the three governors who did not call off their elections were wrong? Failed to listen

to science?

Did they do a worse job than DeWine?

[GulfCoast66]

31. Did you even read my post? Guys an asshole. We all agree.

But the only place I have read on here giving him credit is his handling of the pandemic.

Nothing else. Do you disagree? Has he handled the pandemic poorly? Compared to many other governors.

And any other subject you want to throw outs about him, don’t bother. I agree. There is not one other thing I am aware he has done that does not demand condemnation.

[Atticus]

32. Of course I read your post and I have no idea why you'd ask that. You said that, "on this

issue (cancelling the primary) DeWine had done "better than most" governors and that he had "believed his scientists". Hence, the questions in my prior post which remain unanswered.

I have not commented on DeWine's "handling of the pandemic" beyond my opinion that he should not have cancelled th primary because of it. In doing that, he evaded a clear court order and set a terrible precedent. Having his health official do what a court had just said he could not followed the Trump format of simply ignoring courts that disagree with you.