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edhopper

(33,575 posts)
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:02 AM Mar 2020

This years Census will be devasting to the Democrats

It will almost entirely be counted by mail or internet. The field operations are suspended, probably canceled. The field operations is where they get the under counted, the poor, the homeless, immigrants, non-natives. Ones who don't answer the mailed form or the internet.. These skew much more Democratic. The under counting of this population will lead to dramatic realignment of the Congressional districts. Blue States will be affected more than Red States. Then the GOP will be free to gerrymander the Democrats out of the majority.
This will be bad.

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This years Census will be devasting to the Democrats (Original Post) edhopper Mar 2020 OP
Don't be so sure. A lot of MAGAts hate the census The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #1
I worked on the last Census edhopper Mar 2020 #4
I filed mine on the Internet True Blue American Mar 2020 #2
Because you are not in the edhopper Mar 2020 #5
Libraries have free computers True Blue American Mar 2020 #11
All the library branches in my city are now closed. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #16
I am not trying to insult you edhopper Mar 2020 #20
I've been very surprised by the number of people who are illiterate around here. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2020 #24
All closed in my city SoCalNative Mar 2020 #26
Libraries in my area (Boston MA) are all closed flyingfysh Mar 2020 #27
I think the point the OP is making is that some people, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #7
Except that is not what he said. wcast Mar 2020 #10
Or aspersions. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #12
Ok wcast Mar 2020 #14
It is exactly what I said edhopper Mar 2020 #21
Census workers are True Blue American Mar 2020 #15
Not true edhopper Mar 2020 #22
I completed mine online. wcast Mar 2020 #3
So that is what the homeless people should do? edhopper Mar 2020 #6
Where did I say this? wcast Mar 2020 #8
That was not the point of my OP edhopper Mar 2020 #9
Then you should change your OP to reflect this. wcast Mar 2020 #13
+1,000,000 jimfields33 Mar 2020 #18
Where does my OP not say this? edhopper Mar 2020 #23
You think they will mail them in? Or talk to a Census Worker? True Blue American Mar 2020 #17
The Census is not only about voting edhopper Mar 2020 #19
:) What we think is almost always on nonintersecting lines, Ed. Hortensis Mar 2020 #25
could you explain how edhopper Mar 2020 #28

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
1. Don't be so sure. A lot of MAGAts hate the census
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:04 AM
Mar 2020

because they don't want the gummint to know their bidniss. Census workers have been regularly threatened by good ol' boys with shotguns.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
2. I filed mine on the Internet
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:05 AM
Mar 2020

Told everyone I talked to to do the same.Easy to type in Census, form comes up. Simple questions.

Why another scare story?

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
5. Because you are not in the
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:08 AM
Mar 2020

underprivileged underclass that are usually not counted and for whom the field operations are paramount for being counted.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
11. Libraries have free computers
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:13 AM
Mar 2020

And the branches are still open.

Even schools do a good share of their work online. Computers are 5 times cheaper than TV’s. Show me a house or apartment that does not have a TV!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
16. All the library branches in my city are now closed.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:16 AM
Mar 2020

Homeless people don't have TVs. There's no place to plug them in under freeway overpasses. And being homeless, they never would have received the form that contains the reference number they have to use to complete the form.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
24. I've been very surprised by the number of people who are illiterate around here.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 03:21 PM
Mar 2020

They rely on Fox news, if they have tv. No computer literacy. No reason for them to go to the library, which is closed here until the virus thing is gone.

Lots of people living at the end of long dirt roads all over the county. No tv, because no broad band/cable that far out. No mail delivery, they have to use a PO box here in town, and find someone to read the mail for them. I know that because I have been that reader for people at times.

And I do not have a tv, btw.


flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
27. Libraries in my area (Boston MA) are all closed
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 03:41 PM
Mar 2020

Even it they were open, they don't have all that many computers.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
7. I think the point the OP is making is that some people,
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:09 AM
Mar 2020

especially the poor and the homeless, will be undercounted. They might not have computers or access to them and therefore can't fill out the form. If there are no census takers in the field those people won't get counted.

wcast

(595 posts)
10. Except that is not what he said.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:13 AM
Mar 2020

If that is what he meant he should restate his OP instead of casting dispersions on others who point out that he is not factually correct.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
21. It is exactly what I said
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:25 AM
Mar 2020

without field operations, many will not be counted. And that will hurt Democrats more than the GOP.

wcast

(595 posts)
8. Where did I say this?
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:10 AM
Mar 2020

I posted this in response to your OP which states most of the Census will be counted by mail.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
9. That was not the point of my OP
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:12 AM
Mar 2020

it is about the under counted that are found by the field operations.

Not mail vs internet.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
23. Where does my OP not say this?
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:44 AM
Mar 2020
The field operations are suspended, probably canceled. The field operations is where they get the under counted, the poor, the homeless, immigrants, non-natives. Ones who don't answer the mailed form or the internet.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
17. You think they will mail them in? Or talk to a Census Worker?
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:18 AM
Mar 2020

I have been in many homeless shelters. They are about a meal and a place to sleep.

Buildings are now being opened for them to stop the spread of the virus.

I doubt they vote at all.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
19. The Census is not only about voting
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:22 AM
Mar 2020

It's also about where resources are allocated. And what you laid out is exactly why we need field operatives to count these people.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. :) What we think is almost always on nonintersecting lines, Ed.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 03:34 PM
Mar 2020

How about writing down what you believe will happen and then checking it in the future?

Fwiw, on top of other answers, maybe consider that this census has been shaping up to this point to be enormously disastrous to the Republicans' hold on power. Our parties are not exactly poised at the same starting line waiting for the gun to go off.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
28. could you explain how
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 03:54 PM
Mar 2020

the under counting that will occur. Especially the demographics of those not counted. Hurt thevRepublicans?

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