Israeli doctor in Italy: We no longer help those over 60

[babylonsister]

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Israeli doctor in Italy: We no longer help those over 60
Israeli medical doctor Gai Peleg told Israeli television that in northern Italy the orders are not to allow those over 60 access to respiratory machines.
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF MARCH 22, 2020 09:21


Italy suffered more coronavirus-related victims than China with 4,825 confirmed deaths and 5,000 confirmed patients in the last 24 hours, Channel 12 reported on Sunday.

Israeli doctor Gai Peleg, who is currently working to save lives in Parma, Italy, told Channel 12 that things are only getting worse as the number of patients keeps growing.

As his department receives coronavirus patients who are terminally ill the focus is to allow patients to meet loved ones and communicate with them during their last moments despite the quarantine regulations. Other reports claim that, as the numbers of dead increases, some families find themselves unable to secure a proper burial for their loved ones.

Peleg said that, from what he sees and hears in the hospital, the instructions are not to offer access to artificial respiratory machines to patients over 60 as such machines are limited in number.

Israel is currently purchasing thousands of respiratory machines, and they are meant to arrive in the country by mid-May. On Saturday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israel is using every means it has to secure medical equipment to help patients during the pandemic.

[ProfessorGAC]

1. Hoax, Huh?

The hoax promoters should tell the family of one of the victims that, to their face.

[denem]

3. The MAGAs won't get to see granny suffocating: quarantined area.

Won't get to attend her funeral either. In Italy, it's straight to the crematoriums.

[durablend]

13. Doubt most of them care anyway

They're probably thinking "Whoohoo inheritance!"

[Ilsa]

17. Yeah, "It's her own fault for growing old. Besides,

she had enough time, amirite? If she hasn't gotten rich enough to buy her own vent by age 60, then she's just another loser."

Honestly, I'm surprised trump hasn't made this his only directive.

[denem]

2. Has been that way in Lombardy for at least two weeks.

Hence the high death rate. Critical condition, no ventilator, equals deceased.

[OhioChick]

4. This is really sad to read n/t

[thesquanderer]

5. First we live out 1984... now Logan's Run? (n/t)

[2naSalit]

8. Looks that way. ...nt

[Squidly]

6. THIS is what scare the fk out of me...

"Israel is currently purchasing thousands of respiratory machines, and they are meant to arrive in the country by mid-May. On Saturday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israel is using every means it has to secure medical equipment to help patients during the pandemic."

How many of these are coming from the US that should be staying here?? You know damn well that the profit-above-all-else crowd is jumping all over this!!

This is the ONE AND ONLY time that I am 100% for isolationism. We need to take care of the people here!!

[2naSalit]

9. How much of our reserve has been sold off

without our knowledge and $$ flowed into the pockets you know who?

[NickB79]

7. Even though I'm healthy and 40, this is horrifying

Because if I need hospitalization, I'm going to know I survived because someone else had to die for me to do so.

[honest.abe]

10. Since when is 60 considered too old for health care??

If that have to ration care it should be based on general health condition, not just age.

[The_jackalope]

16. It would be one of the factors, not the only one. nt

[Hotler]

11. Israel is probably using our tax dollars for the machines. Don't we send them..

3-4 billion a year?

[Laelth]

12. Thank you for this post. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[Ace Rothstein]

14. This is coming to America.

Instead it will be based off of insurance reimbursement rates and who has the ability to pay.

[HotTeaBag]

15. I don't know why, but I have a really hard time believing this.

I would understand if the patients coming in are too far gone for treatment - those that couldn't get to the hospital in time because things got really bad really quickly after being somewhat under control at home.

But the way that this disease seems to progress is that susceptible people who are already hospitalized go from being in serious condition to critical and then move into the ICU onto ventilators and respirators. It would seem (from my reading anyhow) that this doctor is saying that if you're 60 and above you aren't offered the life-saving treatment that you require if you're already a patient - that seems odd.

Also, he said "from what he sees and hears" the instructions are not to give treatment to that age group - not that he got a direct order - just what he thinks is happening.

[treestar]

18. Won't this be relieved by the Israeli-supplied machines?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

19. Maybe a little relief, but mostly "too little, too late".

We might get to that state of triage here: no help if you're over 60. But, there will be exceptions for stars.

I'm not worthy.

[treestar]

20. Scary. I'm not either, just.

turned 60. They must be in deep shit if they have to go that low of an age.

[Duncan Grant]

21. K&R