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Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:00 PM Mar 2020

how evil is one who blocks aid to a struggling nation

... from the rest of the world.
I understand the differences in Iran leadership and the United States but the common population of that country can’t control their political leadership anymore than we can control ours. They are no less human.
To intentionally block aid and medical supplies to a country ravished by Coronavirus is nothing short of mass murder.

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SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
2. Including blocking aid from our own people here in the US...rump is saying manufacturing...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:09 PM
Mar 2020

ventilators is complicated, pence says no. rump says that 10s of millions of masks are on way, really? States are asking where? Liars and totally incompetent. Where are the 25th Amendment implementers? This is a national emergency if I haven't seen one yet.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
3. We dont have the capacity to help ourself right now
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:12 PM
Mar 2020

But why would we prevent the WOrld health organization and other countries help Iran?

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
4. I thought in cases of humanitarian reasons, Iran could still get stuff, so I don't understand...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 01:58 PM
Mar 2020

really what's keeping this medical aid going to them (humanitarian in nature)?

I suspect by now the WHO is pretty overwhelmed now and I think it's getting to the point that it is every person/country for themselves.

I thought most sanctioned items were non-medical in nature. Perhaps the leadership in Iran papered (like China did) over/hid the magnitude of the affiliation from the world, being that it hit pretty hard in Qom, the primary city of the Mullahs operate out of.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
5. Reporting from one said that they denied aid from US
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:35 PM
Mar 2020

Another was they were begging for Sanctions to be lifted so that food and aid could be brought in.
Both reports quote the state department stating different positions.
I don’t know what is happening

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. We CAN control ours. Not to mistake outrageous irresponsibility
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:36 PM
Mar 2020

of those who become corrupted by partisanship with inability.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Sorry, but "I vas just following orders from my leader"
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:57 PM
Mar 2020

is a completely invalid excuse for citizens of a democratic republic. Nor is "I believe my leader because he's a good man" a valid excuse for supporting wrong at any time in any place.

Interestingly, political scientists have found that not only do bad leaders corrupt their followers from top down, but bad leaders are also corrupted from bottom up by bad followers who want and/or positively reinforce bad behavior, instead of producing backlash. A synergy that leads to mass evil.

We have to choose politicians for good character first. And of course, first figure out what that is. It's not promising us the world. And if a wannabe leader is lying or otherwise behaving badly and that behavior attracts people who also behave badly -- take pictures to document and run the other way.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
10. I thought that we had hero's too
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020

HR McMaster, John Kelly, Rex Tillerson, Robert Mueller... all of that Eagle Scout training just flushed down the toilet?
Why couldn’t they at least ring the alarm? Were they bought off, threatened with their life, or did they feel the risk of public humiliation wasn’t worth it?

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