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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:38 PM Mar 2020

The Novel Coronavirus Originated In Bats, And That's Actually Pretty Common

If you’re not a member of the scientific or medical community (or, if you are, you're a hero right now!), it might seem like the novel coronavirus came out of nowhere. Now that 191,127 COVID-19 cases in total have been reported on every continent except for Antarctica, many people are wondering exactly where the novel coronavirus came from.

While a lot about the virus is still unknown, part of the answer to that mystery may have to do with an animal more commonly thought of as an important part of any good Halloween decoration display: the bat.

The first cases of COVID-19 (the illness caused by novel coronavirus) can be traced back to a live animal market in Wuhan City, China, according to the CDC. And research suggests that, like other recent viral outbreaks, COVID-19 originated in bats before it made the jump to humans. Here, the details on how bats played a role in this COVID-19 outbreak.

How did bats get the novel coronavirus in the first place?

It's unclear exactly how bats picked up novel coronavirus, but researchers do know they carry it and are the reason it's been passed on to humans. COVID-19 is a zoonotic disease, which means it is caused by an animal virus that has been picked up by humans, explains Richard J. Kuhn, PhD, a professor of biological sciences at Purdue University. By Kuhn’s estimate, about 80 percent of viruses that exist are zoonotic viruses, and they work in both directions: animals can pass them to humans, and humans can pass them back to animals.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/novel-coronavirus-originated-bats-thats-110000180.html

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The Novel Coronavirus Originated In Bats, And That's Actually Pretty Common (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 OP
So trump should call it "batty" virus, yes? n/t dixiegrrrrl Mar 2020 #1
There is a six episode documentary on Netflix "Pandemic" that explains all doc03 Mar 2020 #2
Disclaimer im NOT a scientist leighbythesea2 Mar 2020 #3
This has been known for years-- here's an article from two years ago... TreasonousBastard Mar 2020 #4
Also Ebola. Igel Mar 2020 #5

doc03

(35,336 posts)
2. There is a six episode documentary on Netflix "Pandemic" that explains all
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:52 PM
Mar 2020

these corona viruses come from birds and also bats.

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
3. Disclaimer im NOT a scientist
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:56 PM
Mar 2020

But i was perplexed back in January on this. Through searching I read somewhere they think it moved from bats to pangolins. Which are a protected species. But also sought for medicinal qualities. Possibly they were being sold at the market illegally.

The "wet" markets butcher on site and aoparently customers sometimes want to witness this to make sure they are getting what they paid for.
So then theres this theory around those conditions. Aerosolized everything, too much contact.

That is something that could be changed. Police markets so they are not selling protected species, stopping that live practice, would be best, etc.
They were saying the move from bats to other species happens in the wild, like in this article. Wish i had the link i found, it was a good one.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. This has been known for years-- here's an article from two years ago...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:11 PM
Mar 2020
https://time.com/4827511/bats-viruses-diseases-pandemic/

that refers to even older research.

A quick search and after limiting the links to place like CDC, Cornell, and even WebMD, you find out that there are less than 2 human rabies cases a year in the US, and bats cause most of them. Usually through bites.

Since contact with saliva is required to get rabies, you have to be bitten, or find some other way to get the saliva on you. One way, not well documented, is possibly hanging out in a bat cave with thousands of bats, a percentage of whim have rabies (1-2% is often cited as a high ratio of rabid bats). The air in the cave, at 100% humidity, could possibly have live viruses and they could be breathed in by some unlucky spelunker. Some consider this a myth, but others are not so sure.

Igel

(35,303 posts)
5. Also Ebola.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:25 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/ebola-virus-disease

Bats are lovely creatures, but incredible reservoirs for disease.

Monkeys are good for some kinds of hemorrhagic fever, too. Marburg. And HIV (from SIV).

We're used to the animal diseases from the domesticated ones. They're fairly safe. Known quantities.

Bush meat and wet markets ... Whole new world of pathogens out there. Used to be a problem on a small scale from time to time, wipe out a village here, three there. Now ... Ouch.

Even MERS hopped from camels. It's assumed because they're raced, but they're also considered yummy and halal. But started with bats.
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