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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:22 PM Mar 2020

Rhode Island Police to Hunt Down NYers Seeking Refuge - road blocks and house-to-house searches

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-27/rhode-island-police-to-hunt-down-new-yorkers-seeking-refuge

By Prashant Gopal and Brian K Sullivan
March 27, 2020, 5:14 PM EDT

Rhode Island police began stopping cars with New York plates Friday. On Saturday, the National Guard will help them conduct house-to-house searches to find people who traveled from New York and demand 14 days of self-quarantine.

“Right now we have a pinpointed risk,” Governor Gina Raimondo said. “That risk is called New York City.”

New York is the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S., on Friday reporting a total of 44,000 cases.

Rhode Island has just over 200, and it has begun an aggressive campaign to keep the virus out and New Yorkers contained, over objections from civil liberties advocates.

Raimondo, a Democrat, said she had consulted lawyers and said while she couldn’t close the border, she felt confident she could enforce a quarantine.

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Rhode Island Police to Hunt Down NYers Seeking Refuge - road blocks and house-to-house searches (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 OP
yup, town of south kingston passed an act enforcing it with a $500/day fine.... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #1
I watched her Presser earlier and I am glad Marrah_Goodman Mar 2020 #2
No way. Unamerican. Probably unconstitutional. lostnfound Mar 2020 #3
They aren't stopping them from coming in Marrah_Goodman Mar 2020 #4
You are right and that is probably fine. lostnfound Mar 2020 #5
What probable cause do they have to stop these cars? NYC Liberal Mar 2020 #6
Our Governor is a pretty smart woman Marrah_Goodman Mar 2020 #8
I'm sure she is. But someone is going to decline NYC Liberal Mar 2020 #11
None Meowmee Mar 2020 #9
I know someone who got stopped going from NM intoo Arizona womanofthehills Mar 2020 #12
I'm sure they're doing it. But I highly doubt it'll stand up in court if/when it's challenged. NYC Liberal Mar 2020 #13
Wow Meowmee Mar 2020 #7
What. The . Fuck. greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #10
Never thought I'd see a Dem wipe their ass with the constitution Jake Stern Mar 2020 #14
A COVID-19 related inter-state travel ban would be Constitutional IMHO Progressive Law Mar 2020 #15

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
1. yup, town of south kingston passed an act enforcing it with a $500/day fine....
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:27 PM
Mar 2020

SK is the south coast, where a LOT of vacation homes are along the coast. It applies to all visitors and out of state residents though.

They haven't invoked the nuclear option yet (closing marina's and boat ramps), but it can't be far behind.

RI has more coastline than almost every state except florida. They don't call it the ocean state for nothin.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
2. I watched her Presser earlier and I am glad
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:31 PM
Mar 2020

If that sounds cold-hearted, so be it. My daughter and granddaughter are CNAs in RI hospitals My room-mates are both essential workers in Westerly, RI, right on the CT line. Folks need to understand that things are getting bad and are going to get very very bad. Unpopular decisions are going to need to be made.

lostnfound

(16,177 posts)
3. No way. Unamerican. Probably unconstitutional.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:34 PM
Mar 2020

Back when we had a Supreme Court that would uphold the constitution.
Wait until they say “papers please” every time you cross a state line. It’s coming.

On edit. Demanding 14 day self quarantine is okay. Stopping cars at state border is not. In my opinion. You can’t deny entry to an American citizen.

lostnfound

(16,177 posts)
5. You are right and that is probably fine.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:37 PM
Mar 2020

I’m exhausted tonight. Can’t even read clearly, I guess. Nt

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
6. What probable cause do they have to stop these cars?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:37 PM
Mar 2020

I highly doubt that a stop based solely on the car’s license plate would be upheld in court.

Same goes for the house to house searches. They can knock, but nobody is required to answer.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
8. Our Governor is a pretty smart woman
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:41 PM
Mar 2020

I think she checked if she had the power to do this first. The other option is to assume that all those rich folks coming here to their summer houses will abide by the quarantine order. They are stopping people, getting contact information and then checking in on them to make sure they are following the state rules.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
11. I'm sure she is. But someone is going to decline
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:51 PM
Mar 2020

when they’re stopped by the police and start getting interrogated. I would, and I would encourage everyone not to say anything to the police without a lawyer present.

It will go to court and it’ll get shot down.

womanofthehills

(8,702 posts)
12. I know someone who got stopped going from NM intoo Arizona
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:58 PM
Mar 2020

She was questioned about where she was going and why?

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
7. Wow
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:40 PM
Mar 2020

Hard to believe this is what this country has come to. Interesting to note they won’t be screening commercial vehicles sending supplies, maybe they should stop getting them and get their needs met somewhere else?

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
14. Never thought I'd see a Dem wipe their ass with the constitution
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:41 PM
Mar 2020

Stopping cars with no other justification than they're from New York? I just cannot see where that is constitutional. What's next a Soviet style internal passport?

I hope someone sues and wins and RI is forced to make a hefty payout for this blatant overreach.

 

Progressive Law

(617 posts)
15. A COVID-19 related inter-state travel ban would be Constitutional IMHO
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:48 PM
Mar 2020

In Jacobson v. Massachusetts (1905) Justice John Marshall Harlan wrote for a 7-2 majority, “[The Constitution] does not import an absolute right in each person to be, at all times and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint.” Instead, “a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic.” Its members “may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand.”

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/

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