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Can Congress withhold the $500 billion if Trump goes through (Original Post) edhopper Mar 2020 OP
My idea would be to cut the departments he loves until he complies. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #1
No. Laelth Mar 2020 #2
But he is saying edhopper Mar 2020 #5
And Democrats negotiated for that oversight, yes. Laelth Mar 2020 #8
Are you sure? I think they need to appropriate the money cally Mar 2020 #7
I thought this bill acted as an appropriation bill. Laelth Mar 2020 #9
You are probably right cally Mar 2020 #10
Withhold. He lied. Chuck and Nancy said it was all locked down. Don't let him do this. notdarkyet Mar 2020 #3
You mean Sen. Schumer and Speaker Pelosi? Kingofalldems Mar 2020 #11
Congress has a right to the information. Trump declared intent to obstruct. It must go to court. pat_k Mar 2020 #4
+1, uponit7771 Mar 2020 #6

gibraltar72

(7,504 posts)
1. My idea would be to cut the departments he loves until he complies.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:36 PM
Mar 2020

I trust Katie Porter and others will be watchful.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. No.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:36 PM
Mar 2020

The law has passed. If we want to change it, we can amend it, but we will have to get any amendments we want through the Republican-controlled Senate. How likely would that be? No, we’re stuck with the law as written, at this point, and we have to accept that something is better than nothing.

-Laelth

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
5. But he is saying
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:05 PM
Mar 2020

he will defy the law. The $500 billion specifically had oversight attached in the law.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. And Democrats negotiated for that oversight, yes.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:28 PM
Mar 2020

Trump’s announcing that he’s going to screw us out of the oversight we bargained for. All true.

What are we going to do about it? There’s very little we can do, at this point.

-Laelth

cally

(21,593 posts)
7. Are you sure? I think they need to appropriate the money
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:14 PM
Mar 2020

And the bill has to be initiated in House. Maybe there is a way around that but I remember funds being held up before

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
9. I thought this bill acted as an appropriation bill.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:31 PM
Mar 2020

If not, then yes. We could scuttle the law and get nothing instead of something, but I am pretty sure that the recently-passed law acts as an appropriations bill and that we are stuck with it, for better or for worse.

Please correct me if I am wrong.



-Laelth

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
3. Withhold. He lied. Chuck and Nancy said it was all locked down. Don't let him do this.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:38 PM
Mar 2020

Just like Ukraine. Where’s the money.?

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
4. Congress has a right to the information. Trump declared intent to obstruct. It must go to court.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:50 PM
Mar 2020

A court that actually gave a shit about the law would compel him to provide the information Congress is entitled to until fully litigated. (i.e., Restrain him from exercising his claimed, and likely unconstitutional, "right" to withhold he has declared for himself until a final determination is made.)

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