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pat_k

(9,313 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:49 PM Mar 2020

Interesting "smart thermometer" data from Kinsa Health

Social distancing is slowing not only Covid-19, but other diseases too

Kinsa Health, a company that has sold or given away more than 1 million smart thermometers in the US. Kinsa collects anonymized thermometer readings (via its app, which users connect to the device) from its active user base to estimate the share of people that are ill in different geographies. By comparing current thermometer readings to historical trends, researchers have used Kinsa’s data to predict flu outbreaks weeks before the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s surveillance program, which uses hospitalization records....

Recent data clearly show the spread of Covid-19. On March 19, the share of Americans with temperatures indicating they had flu-like symptoms was about 4.9% when it typically would be expected to be about 4.0%. This was likely a result of the spread of Covid-19, according to Kinsa’s researchers.

But by March 23, it was down to 3.3%, when it would typically be at 3.7% (the share of fevers decreases quickly at this time of year because of the end of winter).

The drop—from 0.9% above typical flu-like illness rates to 0.4% below—in just four days is the largest one Kinsa has ever observed in such a short period of time, according to Kinsa CEO Inder Singh. “There is no known precedent for this type of extensive social distancing in recent time,” said Singh. “We have nothing to compare this to, but this extreme drop is exactly what we would hope and expect with the measures currently in place.”
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Interesting "smart thermometer" data from Kinsa Health (Original Post) pat_k Mar 2020 OP
one can have covid 19 without having a fever nt msongs Mar 2020 #1
True. Other stuff is not getting passed around because of distancing. rzemanfl Mar 2020 #2
Looked to me like, prior to social distancing, the increase of 0.9% could be attributed to COVID-19. pat_k Mar 2020 #4
The same cannot be said for the decrease, which could all be atrtributed to less ordinary flu. rzemanfl Mar 2020 #5
Yes. After soc distancing, can't tease out whatever is happening with COVID-19 from flu reduction. pat_k Mar 2020 #8
Of course. But I still thought their findings were very interesting. pat_k Mar 2020 #3
My niece's fiancee has it, or is symptomatic mcar Mar 2020 #7
So sorry to hear this. pat_k Mar 2020 #9
Perhaps more people are checking their temperatures more often? Freethinker65 Mar 2020 #6
Correct... more Reading when people are well... if they don't have a 'control' for this in their JCMach1 Mar 2020 #10
My understanding is that their "Temp pal" is real-time, continuous monitoring. pat_k Mar 2020 #11
We also have to remember only people who can afford these devices and smart phones... mitch96 Mar 2020 #12
Wish they said what proportion were given away in the statement... pat_k Mar 2020 #13
They sell for $35.00 Jane Austin Mar 2020 #15
went to the web site and they are out of stock... along with amazon/target/walmart etc..oh well mitch96 Mar 2020 #16
Hmmm, so why have the number of confirmed cases in my state frazzled Mar 2020 #14

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
2. True. Other stuff is not getting passed around because of distancing.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:00 PM
Mar 2020

Interesting development, but how much is CV-19 and how much is other stuff remains to be seen.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
4. Looked to me like, prior to social distancing, the increase of 0.9% could be attributed to COVID-19.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020

Unless I'm misinterpreting, that's about 1 percent of people infected. That would actually be consistent with Iceland's surveillance data (found about 1% infected there).

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
5. The same cannot be said for the decrease, which could all be atrtributed to less ordinary flu.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:06 PM
Mar 2020

There is no way to interpret the data, IMHO.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
8. Yes. After soc distancing, can't tease out whatever is happening with COVID-19 from flu reduction.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:49 PM
Mar 2020

Safe to conclude reduction in seasonable flu, but the magnitude relative to COVID-19 effect (up/down/no change relative to up tick before distancing) seems impossible to determine.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
3. Of course. But I still thought their findings were very interesting.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:00 PM
Mar 2020

And I also think it is cool that, prior to all this, they've been able to predict flu outbreaks from patterns in the data before detected with other surveillance methods.

mcar

(42,331 posts)
7. My niece's fiancee has it, or is symptomatic
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

and is being tested tomorrow. He works in NYC and has several co-workers who have tested positive.

He's got pain in his chest, upper respiratory, congestion, but no fever.

Freethinker65

(10,021 posts)
6. Perhaps more people are checking their temperatures more often?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:07 PM
Mar 2020

Lots more normal readings than typical?

JCMach1

(27,558 posts)
10. Correct... more Reading when people are well... if they don't have a 'control' for this in their
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:54 PM
Mar 2020

data, the data is meaningless.

Use the data for what it was intended: visualizing and predicting possible hotspots geographically

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
11. My understanding is that their "Temp pal" is real-time, continuous monitoring.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:56 PM
Mar 2020

Perhaps more people are wearing the thing than normally would, but I think that would just make the sample bigger, and data more reliable , not necessarily produce a change in pattern relative to non-flu season "baseline" or past flu outbreaks.

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
12. We also have to remember only people who can afford these devices and smart phones...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:06 PM
Mar 2020

are being counted. Not the unfortunates unable to get these devices..
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pat_k

(9,313 posts)
13. Wish they said what proportion were given away in the statement...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:17 PM
Mar 2020

..."has sold or given away more than 1 million smart thermometers in the US."

That information would give some indication the level of the "affordability" issue.

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
16. went to the web site and they are out of stock... along with amazon/target/walmart etc..oh well
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:32 AM
Mar 2020

I guess I'll use my meat thermometer... I'm meat, right?
m

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
14. Hmmm, so why have the number of confirmed cases in my state
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:29 PM
Mar 2020

gone from around 585 to around 4,600 during that same time frame?

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