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CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:56 PM Mar 2020

Hobby Lobby Closes Stores, Begins Layoffs Following 'God Is in Control' Remarks Amid Pandemic

Hobby Lobby Closes Stores, Begins Layoffs Following 'God Is in Control' Remarks Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

Despite previous claims from Hobby Lobby owner David Green that a "vision from God" told him and his wife to keep the chain open, stores are closing and the company might be making it worse. According to The Frontier, the Oklahoma-based business has closed its stores in the state and then turned around to cut employee pay due to the outbreak while also terminating at least 32 employees in Hobby Lobby's art and creative department.

A letter sent out Friday to the affected employees noted that the layoff is permanent and encouraged them to seek unemployment benefits. They were also told that a company representative will stop by homes to deliver "personal belongings" and company badges or equipment.

"It is with a tremendously broken heart that I’ve been forced to take these unimaginable actions, and I genuinely hope you know that my prayers are with you and your family," Hobby Lobby Arts and Creative Vice President Darsee Lettin in the letter to terminated employees. "It has been such an honor having you on my Team. I truly and deeply appreciate your service to this Department and the Company, and wish you the very best as this calamity hopefully ends in the very near future."

The closing of the stores in Oklahoma is not a decision by the company but more a response to the state's orders shuttering all non-essential businesses. Several other states have seen stores close for similar reasons, including Texas, California, New York, and Maryland. The Frontier notes that stores have not closed in states like Minnesota, Arkansas, and Georgia.


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Hobby Lobby Closes Stores, Begins Layoffs Following 'God Is in Control' Remarks Amid Pandemic (Original Post) CatWoman Mar 2020 OP
I guess he has to make up for those fines for stolen artifacts and getting burned on fake scrolls. TheBlackAdder Mar 2020 #1
Fuck your "thoughts and prayers". Initech Mar 2020 #2
Taking note of Liberty University's predicament perhaps? Zambero Mar 2020 #3
They just weren't making enough to stay open bedazzled Mar 2020 #4
How much of the 500 billion will they be getting? Tech Mar 2020 #5
As someone who grew up Evangelical and even after stopping church attendance kept the politics GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #6
Their God!!! atreides1 Mar 2020 #9
Amen Brother. Or sister. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #13
I do battle with Satan every day. God wants me to stop playing with myself. 3Hotdogs Mar 2020 #17
Let your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend help. Piss off both god and satan. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #18
I ain't got a girlfriend or wife. I'm too ugly and I'm broke. 3Hotdogs Mar 2020 #20
So the holy owner is throwing his ex-employees to Caesar's unemployment cash. UTUSN Mar 2020 #7
I have mixed feelings about this... Hugin Mar 2020 #8
Okay atreides1 Mar 2020 #12
You didn't read what I said... Hugin Mar 2020 #14
God is in charge and right now he wants us to questionseverything Mar 2020 #10
Too bad about the employees. Laffy Kat Mar 2020 #11
One open last year just up the road. Was hoping much the same.. magicarpet Mar 2020 #23
Here's hoping God is now angry at Green and his wife for ignoring him. TeamPooka Mar 2020 #15
Non-essential? I beg to differ...there are supplies and such that can be used to make things that.. SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #16
+1 Hugin Mar 2020 #21
Yes, that a good example too. I expect that the guy will come out and say that he's closed the ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #24
God's judgement? keithbvadu2 Mar 2020 #19
Closing the stores isn't hurting Green or his Museum any. Hugin Mar 2020 #22
Whenever I hear Christian Business, Employer, Therapy, etc. Xolodno Mar 2020 #25
This asshat is worth $7 billion TlalocW Mar 2020 #26
Pornhub, free hands.... so many jokes, so little time - n/t Locrian Mar 2020 #29
You KentuckyWoman Mar 2020 #32
Probably found outthey were going to be paying hefty fines. Historic NY Mar 2020 #27
I take it as a point of personal pride ... rustysgurl Mar 2020 #28
I was in there a month and a half ago TlalocW Mar 2020 #30
Hobby Lobby needs to go belly up. KentuckyWoman Mar 2020 #31

Zambero

(8,968 posts)
3. Taking note of Liberty University's predicament perhaps?
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:04 AM
Mar 2020

I'm not sure exactly where God stands on all of this right at the moment. If I had to guess, he/she might volunteer that he/she can only do so much, given that too many stupid idiots are doing too many stupid things in too many places.

bedazzled

(1,769 posts)
4. They just weren't making enough to stay open
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:09 AM
Mar 2020

Just like my job. If there were enough idiots shopping they would be open for sure. Fortunately the number of folks willing to risk life and limb for used clothing or pipe cleaners is rather small.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
6. As someone who grew up Evangelical and even after stopping church attendance kept the politics
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:23 AM
Mar 2020

For several decades, I’ve come to one conclusion.

They worship their god because he is as big a dick as they are. And believing their god is like that gives them license to be the same way.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
9. Their God!!!
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:27 AM
Mar 2020

Is printed by the US Bureau of Engraving...and it isn't the Jewish carpenter that the Roman authorities crucified...

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. Amen Brother. Or sister.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:36 AM
Mar 2020

I can’t imagine being desperate enough to work for a company whose owner sends out a memo calling his wife the ‘prayer warrior’. WTF does that even mean? Is she doing battle with satan and his Democratic minions when she prays?

Con man all the way. I don’t dislike religious people. Every one of my friends are religious. And none of them are worth 4.6 Billion.

3Hotdogs

(12,408 posts)
17. I do battle with Satan every day. God wants me to stop playing with myself.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:49 AM
Mar 2020

Lucifer wants me to keep on doing it.

I prays hard every day but Lucifer always wins.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
18. Let your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend help. Piss off both god and satan.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:54 AM
Mar 2020

Maybe they will leave you here longer arguing over who has to take you.

3Hotdogs

(12,408 posts)
20. I ain't got a girlfriend or wife. I'm too ugly and I'm broke.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:57 AM
Mar 2020

I ain't got a boyfriend because Jesus don't like that stuff either and I don't want to piss him off any more than I already do.

But thanx for the tip.

UTUSN

(70,742 posts)
7. So the holy owner is throwing his ex-employees to Caesar's unemployment cash.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:25 AM
Mar 2020

This would be the fellow who battled OBAMAcare over "conscience" about birth control pills, who is said to run the empire without computers much to the angst of his managers, who could disinherit his beneficiary if any changes to the religiosity way of running things (computers) are made.








Hugin

(33,207 posts)
8. I have mixed feelings about this...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:25 AM
Mar 2020

Granted, David Green is one of the most colossal asses to ever cast a shadow on this Earth.

But, aside from that FACT...

1) Other large retail stores remain open, such as Target and Walmart, which are also owned or managed by their own colossal asses. These retail stores are still selling non-survival essential items. I bet you could buy a decorative throw or tchotchke, if you so desired.

2) As, I was in a Hobby Lobby two weeks ago obtaining, believe it or not, essential items I had determined I'd need for an extended self-isolation. The manager of that store was the FIRST person I saw ANYWHERE who was standing at the front of the store personally enforcing the six foot separation on patrons as they stood in line at the check out. I haven't seen anything like it since. She had also equipped all of her checkers with the best PPE she could manage. I was quite impressed by the level of effort.

So, the local stores and the employees were making a valiant effort.

I somehow doubt Green has had a change of heart... I suspect the reason for the closures has more to do with the bottom line and liability than any concern with his employees or the public at large.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
12. Okay
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:34 AM
Mar 2020

The Targets and Walmarts in my area sell toilet paper, paper towels, and food...I believe those items are considered essential to some people.



Hugin

(33,207 posts)
14. You didn't read what I said...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:37 AM
Mar 2020

They also have stores full of non-essential items they will happily sell you.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
11. Too bad about the employees.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:34 AM
Mar 2020

They should have known how expendable they were in that organization. The one closest to us had to close a couple of years ago because everyone was boycotting it.

magicarpet

(14,173 posts)
23. One open last year just up the road. Was hoping much the same..
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:02 AM
Mar 2020

Might happen here, low sales volume due to Christian Nazi boycott,.. see ya,.. bye bye.

Here don't forget take your buybull with ya.

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
16. Non-essential? I beg to differ...there are supplies and such that can be used to make things that..
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:48 AM
Mar 2020

are essential, it depends on what the item being constructed is. It really sounds like to me that they don't want to pay the majority of their employees anyways, since basically their market has been slashed by a big chunk, that folks aren't buying the artsy stuff to make doo dads...

I don't understand this...

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
21. +1
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:59 AM
Mar 2020

Yeah, a pipe cleaner could come in very handy for maintaining a ventilator or some fabric/elastic for masks.

People closing their minds due to their biases is not the exclusive domain of the Trumpanzees as this pandemic becomes even more politically polarized.


SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
24. Yes, that a good example too. I expect that the guy will come out and say that he's closed the ...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:11 AM
Mar 2020

stores to 'protect' his employees. There are stores open in the area, but they are taking every precaution, i.e.. at a local grocery store, they hand clean/sanitize each shopping cart as it comes back in, and personally hand a cart to each new shopper as they come in. Some places also limit the number of people coming in, and of course most places not essential (quite a few of them) are closed, so movement of people is restricted. Of course some of the drive in (for food) are busy, I don't mess w/, I'd rather just fix something at home, avoid anymore contact than I need.

Be safe and take care!

keithbvadu2

(36,912 posts)
19. God's judgement?
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:55 AM
Mar 2020

God's judgement?

Christianity and the Bible honored, enhanced, exemplified, glorified and displayed by theft and fraud by the Hobby Lobby Museum..

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
22. Closing the stores isn't hurting Green or his Museum any.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:01 AM
Mar 2020

His stimulus check probably already cleared and it was based on having employees and stores. Without those, it's pure profit, baby.

Xolodno

(6,401 posts)
25. Whenever I hear Christian Business, Employer, Therapy, etc.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:33 AM
Mar 2020

I avoid them like a God sent plague.

Christ was very specific....pray in your closet and don't advertise.

TlalocW

(15,391 posts)
26. This asshat is worth $7 billion
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:51 AM
Mar 2020

He has 32,000 employees. The highest salary I could find is $340,000 a year. If he paid everyone the monthly equivalent of that salary so they could stay at home for a month, he would have $6.9 billion. If he paid them all their actual monthly salary/wages, after rounding, he would have $7 billion.

On edit: PornHub on the other hand is giving their employees and models a month's salary/wage and telling them to stay home and making its site free for a month because everyone's hands are idle, I guess.

(Deep breath) It's like RAAAAAA-EAAAAAIN ON YOUR WEDDING DAY!
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's a literary device you don't get anyway
And who would have thought it figures.

TlalocW

rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
28. I take it as a point of personal pride ...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:29 AM
Mar 2020

... that I don't shop there anymore.

The last time I was in a Hobby Lobby (a LONG time ago), the women manning the registers were working their kiesters off, while the guy in the vest who called himself a manager stood there and watched them work. I walked up to him and asked him point blank why he didn't open a register to reduce the line. His response? "I'm a manager -- that's THEIR job."

I've never been back.

I'm sorry for the workers affected, but definitely NOT sorry for this sorry-ass company.

TlalocW

(15,391 posts)
30. I was in there a month and a half ago
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:45 PM
Mar 2020

On the off-chance that they would have fabric with a certain pattern - any pattern - with chocolate chip cookies because I want to sew a gift for a friend. If I found it, I was going to wrestle with my morality on whether giving my friend a gift was worth $20 to these ass-clowns. They didn't, but they had a complete bolt of fabric that Joann used to carry but currently doesn't have (and may never again) that I was wanting for some projects I wanted to make to sell. I couldn't afford the whole bolt so left without it (no cookie pattern either). Their treatment has shinied up my spine back to the point when they were interfering with letting their employees have health plans with birth control in them, and I won't go back.

TlalocW

KentuckyWoman

(6,692 posts)
31. Hobby Lobby needs to go belly up.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 09:51 PM
Mar 2020

They were once a good option for craft and art supplies. Now it is 90% cheap shit furniture and seasonal decor.

I feel for the employees. The shift to online instead of brick and mortar just got fast forwarded by Corona. Retail employee are going the way of blacksmiths.

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