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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOil prices plunge to 17-year lows as demand drop threatens to overwhelm storage facilities.
Global crude oil prices tanked Monday amid continued concerns over the coronavirus pandemic's impact on energy demand and the ongoing price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia.
West Texas Intermediate (WTI), the US benchmark dropped below $20 a barrel in Asian trading while Brent crude hit $23.03, its lowest price since 2002.
Both sets of futures regained some of their early losses in European trading hours but remain down. Brent crude is down 6.2% at $26.23 while WTI is down 5.7% at $20.21 as of 9.00 a.m. in London (4.00 a.m. ET).
"There is potential this could go even lower as supply starts to flood storage space which could fill in the next month as a result of the combination of higher supply from the price war and lower global demand," Joe Healey, Investment Research Analyst at The Share Centre said in a morning note.
The widespread lockdown across much of Europe and North America has seen demand plunge while traders estimate that the market is pumping out a surplus of around 25 million barrels per day.
https://www.businessinsider.com/crude-oil-prices-plunge-price-war-storage-and-coronavirus-fears-2020-3
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Or run at minimum speeds, but they will shut down many soon until the demand returns. Some will take advantage and do some work while this is happening to update and do maintenance and repairs if they can . Some oil companies will be gone from this and fold or be bought out from this event. They may upgrade some refinery's to be able to run more sour crude as their price for it from the prince is so low now.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)Shale oil is light sweet, extremely so from some fields. Our domestic storage capacity is near overflowing with it.
Our refineries are if anything overly configured for heavy / sour back from before the shale boom when we used lots of South American heavy crude.
If they do anything they would do the opposite, but that is also an expensive capital expenditure, so I doubt they make many changes.
Article from two years ago about the US being overly configured for heavy crude and under configured for light sweet. www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/04/17/shale-oil-has-a-refining-problem-and-morgan-stanley-smells-opportunity.html
intrepidity
(7,296 posts)Thieves
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I went for a drive. I didn't need gas. I used to fill up about once a week. In two weeks I've barely used a quarter of a tank.
ProfessorGAC
(65,035 posts)Saturday I paid $1.639 (with saver card) in NE Illinois.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)I'm a bit further inlan so we're seeing mostly at the $2.09 level now.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)I even saw an outlier of $1.46 yesterday
Promisep
(31 posts)Not so cheap.
BumRushDaShow
(128,973 posts)I know here in Philly it is still running in the $2.40s... I don't expect to see any below $2 here.
tnlurker
(1,020 posts)I used to buy a tank for the truck every six days and one for the wife's car about every two weeks.
I still have half a tank in the truck and 3 quarters of a tank in the wife's car from a few trips to the store and back in the past two weeks. At this rate It will be over a month between fill-ups vs 6 to 7 per month for the two cars.
If this is the case for most people staying home like me and the wife then the gas companies will not be selling much gas this year. We could see $.99 gas before this is over. It is around $1.59 is West Tennessee this weekend (not that I bought any...just saw the signs).
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)just across the border in Ohio, it was $1.55 a few days ago.
Also, the fracking industry that the Pennsylvania GOP and SW Pa is counting on to bring back the economic glory days has been tanking for awhile with energy companies getting out of that or selling off that part of their business.
BumRushDaShow
(128,973 posts)It's in the $2.30s/$2.40s where I am in the Philly area and worse downtown.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)a bridge to NJ for cheaper gas. Regular gas here ranges from 2.21 to 2.29. Ohio's state gas tax is lower, thus the lower price. I think they are on a different pipeline distribution system, too.
When I lived there, gas was cheaper in Philly than out here, but maybe the refinery shut downs there have had an impact on price.
BumRushDaShow
(128,973 posts)They know about the price differential, so the tolls kept pace. The toll for the Delaware River Port Authority bridges, is $5. So with that toll plus the cost in mileage to drive over there, it comes out even (ask me how I know this... ).
And now Jersey increased their gas tax, so it would be a loss for PA folks trying to go over there just for gas. For those who live in PA and commute to Jersey (and would have to spend the money for tolls anyway - one of my BILs used to do that), then it would make sense to just go on and fill up there. But otherwise, it's not worth it.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)a dime.
BumRushDaShow
(128,973 posts)(I think they did that because they needed the money to renovate the drawbridge mechanism)
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)instead of the newer, higher tolled bridges. I can remember jokes about how loney the Ben Franklin and Betsy Ross bridges were.
BumRushDaShow
(128,973 posts)I know I have used it but then most of the time where I needed to go, I either used the Benny or the Turnpike Connector Bridge.
One of my uncles (my mother's sister's hubby) who was born and raised in New England (and who had a sister living here in Philly) used to go up and down the highways from New Hampshire to here and back in the '70s (he bought a Datsun for the gas mileage) and knew every back road to avoid the higher-priced tolls. It was breathtaking to be in a car with him as we approached a toll and just before getting to it, he would get off at an exit and work his way around it (sometimes paying a dime or less for a toll in the vicinity) and get back on the main highway.
Mendocino
(7,489 posts)I haven't got gas for weeks and still have a just a little under a half tank.