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CatWoman

(79,300 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:05 PM Mar 2020

Herd of goats take over empty Welsh town during Covid-19 lockdown

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Have you heard the one about goats taking over a Welsh town? Well, it turns out it's true.

Wild Kashmiri goats have been spotted wandering freely through Llandudno's deserted streets in recent days, nibbling at hedges and springtime gardens as they go.

The animals typically spend their time grazing on the heights of the nearby Great Orme headland and only usually venture down to the town during bouts of bad weather.

But with so many fewer people out and about amid the coronavirus lockdown, some think the creatures have been drawn into Llandudno this time by little more than inquisitiveness.

"They are curious, goats are, and I think they are wondering what's going on like everybody else," town councillor Carol Marubbi told the BBC.

"There are very few visitors on the top [of the Orme], so they have come down in their droves.

"There isn't anyone else around so they probably decided they may as well take over."

Ms Marubbi added that everyone in Llandudno was "very proud" of the animals, which belong to a herd of about 120 goats, saying they had provided "free entertainment" to people cooped up indoors.


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Herd of goats take over empty Welsh town during Covid-19 lockdown (Original Post) CatWoman Mar 2020 OP
I was sort of under the impression that goats take over well-populated Welsh towns, as well. Aristus Mar 2020 #1
Naw, usually sheep. cwydro Mar 2020 #4
Isn't a goat just a horny sheep? Aristus Mar 2020 #5
Lol! I think that applies to humans only! cwydro Mar 2020 #8
Been there. Lovely country. Very nice people. Aristus Mar 2020 #12
I remember seeing goats wandering the streets of Blaenau Ffestiniog Siwsan Mar 2020 #11
Yes, always see sheep everywhere I go in Wales. cwydro Mar 2020 #13
Can you explain something to me, please? CatWoman Mar 2020 #19
Lol, my mother was Welsh and my father was English. cwydro Mar 2020 #21
ok; I'll bite CatWoman Mar 2020 #23
Because England was separate from Wales, and most Welsh consider it still is. cwydro Mar 2020 #24
LOL CatWoman Mar 2020 #25
My parents met in Canada, and dad decorated the church with a huge flag of St. George on one side cwydro Mar 2020 #26
Your aunts were right to correct you. SharonClark Mar 2020 #27
Absolutely, if you see my previous posts, that's exactly what I said to the other poster. cwydro Mar 2020 #28
yup CatWoman Mar 2020 #29
Thank you lol. cwydro Mar 2020 #32
ROFL!!! CatWoman Mar 2020 #34
one more thing -- why is Charles Prince of Wales???? CatWoman Mar 2020 #39
Omg, that is a LONG story. cwydro Apr 2020 #41
Goats always win ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #2
"...they had provided 'free entertainment' to people cooped up indoors." pat_k Mar 2020 #3
Do they sing and tap dance? Juggle? Mime? Ilsa Mar 2020 #20
For some reason I think they are fascinating. pat_k Mar 2020 #31
Ooo, yeah, they do have mesmerizing eyes! nt Ilsa Mar 2020 #37
I absolutely love the town of Llandudno. Not so many goats, last time I visited! Siwsan Mar 2020 #6
I'd like to visit Wales shanti Mar 2020 #10
It definitely can be tricky! Siwsan Mar 2020 #14
Hmmm.. I wonder if I should hyphenate my ggrandfer's name should I ever visit. It GreenPartyVoter Mar 2020 #16
I got the feeling that they LOVE meeting Americans with Welsh bloodlines Siwsan Mar 2020 #18
The Welsh do love helping people research their Welsh heritage! csziggy Mar 2020 #38
How cool is this? shanti Mar 2020 #7
Sheep go to Heaven, Goats go to Hell . .. hatrack Mar 2020 #9
... progressoid Mar 2020 #22
Oh such a handsome boy! patricia92243 Mar 2020 #15
I was there many years ago mcar Mar 2020 #17
Life after humans. Yavin4 Mar 2020 #30
Sweet ❤ Raine Mar 2020 #33
.... CatWoman Mar 2020 #36
Hilarious side effect, thanks for sharing. Brainfodder Mar 2020 #35
Thanks for sharing CatWoman MustLoveBeagles Apr 2020 #40
the attack of the Zombie Herd. librechik Apr 2020 #42
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
8. Lol! I think that applies to humans only!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:20 PM
Mar 2020

If you’ve never been, get to Wales someday!

Wonderful, magical place.

Aristus

(66,327 posts)
12. Been there. Lovely country. Very nice people.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:23 PM
Mar 2020

I got my hosts to take me to Beddgelert, because, being of Welsh extraction, I was raised on the legend of the brave, tragic dog, Gelert.

Got to see the 'grave', and everything. This was before I found out it was the Welsh version of a tourist trap. With no evidence that Gelert, or anyone else, is buried there.

Still, I enjoyed my visit very much.

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
11. I remember seeing goats wandering the streets of Blaenau Ffestiniog
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:21 PM
Mar 2020

Lots of sheep everywhere else.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. Yes, always see sheep everywhere I go in Wales.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:23 PM
Mar 2020

But, yes, goats as well.

A wonderful place, Wales.

CatWoman

(79,300 posts)
19. Can you explain something to me, please?
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:19 PM
Mar 2020

I once referred to a Welsh gentleman as British and he got highly offended.

He was really pissed at me but wouldn't tell me what I did wrong?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
21. Lol, my mother was Welsh and my father was English.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:50 PM
Mar 2020

Both BOTH were British.

Now if you called him ENGLISH, then I would understand.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
24. Because England was separate from Wales, and most Welsh consider it still is.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:43 PM
Mar 2020

Same as calling a Scot English lol. Wouldn’t recommend it.

But Great Britain encompasses all the British Isles (and so many other places once upon a time.)

When I was visiting my aunts (both in their 80s) in Wales last year, and they heard me say to a friend that I was in England, they exclaimed, almost in unison - WALES!.

There are two different flags, and oh my, the soccer and rugby matches!

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
26. My parents met in Canada, and dad decorated the church with a huge flag of St. George on one side
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 06:57 PM
Mar 2020

and the Welsh flag on the other.

On the roof.

I still have the St. George one.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
27. Your aunts were right to correct you.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 07:34 PM
Mar 2020

Your were in bloody Wales, not bloody England.

The Welsh are also British.
The Scots are also British.
The English are also British.
English does not equal British.

Does that help?

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
3. "...they had provided 'free entertainment' to people cooped up indoors."
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:14 PM
Mar 2020

Love it. Better than Netflix!

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
20. Do they sing and tap dance? Juggle? Mime?
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:22 PM
Mar 2020

Have they appeared on Stupid Farm Animal Tricks yet?

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
31. For some reason I think they are fascinating.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 08:07 PM
Mar 2020

Maybe it's their weird eyes:



Here is one amazing goat:

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
6. I absolutely love the town of Llandudno. Not so many goats, last time I visited!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:19 PM
Mar 2020

It really is a charming seaside resort sort of town - kind of Victorian in style. I managed to climb the Great Orme, when I was there. Exhausting. Fortunately there is a lovely tea shop at the top.

In my memory, it was sheep I was seeing around the Orme but perhaps some goats, too. I definitely saw goats wandering down the street in Blaenau Ffestiniog.

Sorry - my memories are causing me to wander. Suffice it to say that Wales is always quite magical.

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
14. It definitely can be tricky!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 02:30 PM
Mar 2020

I love the north of Wales. It is where you will hear the language spoken more than in other sections of Wales. At least that was my experience.

Having a Welsh surname and a respectful curiosity gained me a lot of help with the correct pronunciations.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
16. Hmmm.. I wonder if I should hyphenate my ggrandfer's name should I ever visit. It
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:10 PM
Mar 2020

would be a mouthful (Henderson-Lewis,) but that would be very fitting. (I could throw in my maiden name and my mother’s, and I’d really have something.)

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
18. I got the feeling that they LOVE meeting Americans with Welsh bloodlines
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:06 PM
Mar 2020

I love to immerse myself into what ever culture I'm visiting. I still remember the conversation I had with the landlady about my breakfast request - the Welsh version of a 'Full English' which is eggs, sausages, beans, potatoes, tomatoes, mushrooms and fried toast. They told me most Americans weren't quite up to that sort of start to their day. And for the rest of my meals - no American style fast food for me. Always like to eat at small, out of the way neighborhood places. Especially the local fish and chips shop. That's where you meet interesting people.

And I was the same way when I lived in Iceland. Most of the other Americans never left the base. Not me - my friends were Icelandic and I had some wonderful experiences because of it.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
38. The Welsh do love helping people research their Welsh heritage!
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:45 PM
Mar 2020

Last fall I got to visit the village my great grandfather left in 1872 to come to the US - Llanfihangel y Creuddyn (easier to spell than to pronounce). I stopped by the church where he was baptized and where his parents were married - found his father's and some of his brother's grave stones - and called one of the numbers on the community billboard to ask about the parish records.

All the records are now in Aberystwyth, just a few miles away, but the lady I talked to contacted the local village historian and genealogist. She provided me with some information, but I had nearly everything she had. We also discussed the heritage of my great great grandfather.

He apparently was born in London, then moved to the village before 1837 when he wed a local girl in the church. I think I have found his parents and my theory is sort of bolstered by a stone next to his, that of a woman and her child with the last name of Groome. She died within years of my ancestor being born and Groome is the name of the woman who had a son with his name in London in 1814. The genealogist said the Groome family lived in the a nearby village, but I could never get the name straight. I'll have to dig into the early Welsh census and records!

My husband and I spent half a day in the National Library of Wales and may have found my great grandfather's mother - conveniently named Mary Morgan with a father named David. I have the marriage of a David Morgan to a Catherine Jones from a village closer to Aberysthwyth, and one of the several Marys daughters of David was baptized with her mother there who was named Catherine. Unfortunately, that Catherine Jones was baptized by a man who only wrote the date and name of the baptized but not their parents' names.

A few days later we got lots of help from archivists in the Caernavon Archives and found my husband's ancestor there who became sheriff of Caernavon in 1705 - after his Quaker son moved to Pennsylvania in 1699. That's been a unverified family story until now!

librechik

(30,674 posts)
42. the attack of the Zombie Herd.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:38 PM
Apr 2020

I don't know about you, but I'm more scared of goats than zombies. And those are some mean looking goats.

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