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****Boris Johnson In ICU**** (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2020 OP
I wonder.... RANDYWILDMAN Apr 2020 #1
donnie should send him some fish tank cleaner samnsara Apr 2020 #3
I'll pay for the postage Rorey Apr 2020 #10
ohhhh shit..... samnsara Apr 2020 #2
at least he has national health care RANDYWILDMAN Apr 2020 #7
wow... FirstLight Apr 2020 #4
Probably means he's on a ventilator now. cwydro Apr 2020 #5
Probably ripped away from someone else Rorey Apr 2020 #13
Gah, no kidding. cwydro Apr 2020 #18
I do hope he recovers. boston bean Apr 2020 #6
Well said still_one Apr 2020 #20
+1 happybird Apr 2020 #31
+1 LiberalLoner Apr 2020 #39
Look on the bright side Cirque du So-What Apr 2020 #8
Do we KNOW that there's immunity? underpants Apr 2020 #37
ICU seems to mean the patient is on a ventilator. madaboutharry Apr 2020 #9
Not necessarily. First you're monitored closely. If you're going into ARDS SuprstitionAintthWay Apr 2020 #28
Just saw that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #11
Apparently Satan is immune Rorey Apr 2020 #19
Dominic. Raab. Recursion Apr 2020 #12
Bad news...Raab is awful.. HipChick Apr 2020 #23
This. cwydro Apr 2020 #26
Lest we forget: Boris Johnson was frequently praised here on DU Coventina Apr 2020 #14
He also was praised in 2012 while the mayor of London for his comments on Romney. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #21
He was always a Conservative LisaM Apr 2020 #38
I can tolerate true conservatives. What I can't tolerate is conservative racist bigots DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2020 #41
This is really bad news. milestogo Apr 2020 #15
NBC just reported his fiancee, who is 6 months pregnant, also tested positive. bullwinkle428 Apr 2020 #16
Oh damn wryter2000 Apr 2020 #33
I'm going to point out that Boris changed his tune *before* it affected him personally ... dawg Apr 2020 #17
Good to know. Kerrycrat Apr 2020 #24
They're not reporting survival rates for covid victims put on vents, but SuprstitionAintthWay Apr 2020 #22
54% chance of survivial for his age bracket, per CNN... blitzen Apr 2020 #25
54% of ICU patients, or 54% of those put on vents? SuprstitionAintthWay Apr 2020 #30
on ventilators, for ages 50-64, per Nic Robertson n/t blitzen Apr 2020 #34
Great, thanks. Good to know there are some stats on that. SuprstitionAintthWay Apr 2020 #36
Hope the best for him and all others hit by this virus. Kaleva Apr 2020 #27
:( :( DarthDem Apr 2020 #29
I hoipe he recovers drray23 Apr 2020 #32
I am a strong believer in what you put out comes back to you tenfold. Butterflylady Apr 2020 #35
Correct. Traditionally it's held to be that it comes back to you threefold. localroger Apr 2020 #43
According to the BBC, about an hour ago, PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #40
I find myself MFM008 Apr 2020 #42
Wishing him a full and swift recovery LeftishBrit Apr 2020 #44
The silver lining in this is that the population will now take Covid seriously DenverJared Apr 2020 #45

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
13. Probably ripped away from someone else
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:32 PM
Apr 2020

He should decline it, in the name of "herd immunity"......

Cirque du So-What

(26,025 posts)
8. Look on the bright side
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:29 PM
Apr 2020

He'll have herd immunity if he pulls through. Bet he never figured he'd be part of the herd, however.

underpants

(182,987 posts)
37. Do we KNOW that there's immunity?
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:16 PM
Apr 2020

I hear it slip in here and there but I haven't heard anything definite. Maybe I missed it.

madaboutharry

(40,244 posts)
9. ICU seems to mean the patient is on a ventilator.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:29 PM
Apr 2020

I suppose we will be finding out more soon about Mr. Johnson's condition.

I also believe that I heard, on either CNN or MSNBC, that 10 days in is often a very precarious time in the disease's process when people take turns for the worst.

28. Not necessarily. First you're monitored closely. If you're going into ARDS
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:57 PM
Apr 2020

i.e. acute respiratory distress syndrome, they may try positive air pressure on you short of the highly invasive lung tube. A BiPAP or CPAP or APAP machine. The PAP air tube goes to a face mask, or it can even go to a tracheotomy hole.

But if you can make it on just PAP you really want that. You get to stay awake.

Lung intubation is brutal. They put and usually keep you under for it. And even of those who survive being on vents, many have a very hard recovery afterwards.

In short, most covid patients who go to ICUs do wind up on vents. But not all.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
19. Apparently Satan is immune
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:35 PM
Apr 2020

That's the only explanation that makes sense.

He continued to shake hands, touch his face, etc. And then let's not forget that he stared at the sun during an eclipse.

Yup, he's Satan. Only explanation.

Coventina

(27,223 posts)
14. Lest we forget: Boris Johnson was frequently praised here on DU
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:33 PM
Apr 2020

because he was an ardent critic of George W. Bush and the Iraq War.


I admit, I was one of those who praised him.

But, once he became a mini-me of Trump, of course, I quickly changed my opinion of him.
I didn't realize his criticism of Bush didn't equal good values about other things.

I just thought DU should be reminded that he wasn't always a bad guy around here.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
21. He also was praised in 2012 while the mayor of London for his comments on Romney.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:40 PM
Apr 2020

He went off the deep end with Brexit, tho.

LisaM

(27,848 posts)
38. He was always a Conservative
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:17 PM
Apr 2020

People might have aligned with him on a couple of issues, but I really don't recall much praise for him.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
41. I can tolerate true conservatives. What I can't tolerate is conservative racist bigots
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:40 PM
Apr 2020

Boris seems to fall in the former category, Trump into the latter.

dawg

(10,625 posts)
17. I'm going to point out that Boris changed his tune *before* it affected him personally ...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:34 PM
Apr 2020

and while I'm not overly fond of his politics, I do wish him a safe and speedy recovery.

22. They're not reporting survival rates for covid victims put on vents, but
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:42 PM
Apr 2020

...from what few numbers I have seen, my impression is that if an ICU is getting 50% survival at that stage, that's good.

A 1 in 3 chance may be more common.


Maybe the odds of being "successfully extubated" are better than that. I hope so. We'll hear what it's been eventually. Just not right now.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
25. 54% chance of survivial for his age bracket, per CNN...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 03:47 PM
Apr 2020

but maybe higher for him with especially attentive care, per me.

30. 54% of ICU patients, or 54% of those put on vents?
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:03 PM
Apr 2020

They're different things. Some covid patients do recover in ICUs without having to be intubated.

36. Great, thanks. Good to know there are some stats on that.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:11 PM
Apr 2020

If you run into a link for those %'s for all the age brackets, please post.

drray23

(7,638 posts)
32. I hoipe he recovers
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:04 PM
Apr 2020

Boris Johnson was on the wrong side of history pushing for Brexit but he is nowhere near Trump level of evil and certainly not stupid.

Butterflylady

(3,555 posts)
35. I am a strong believer in what you put out comes back to you tenfold.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:07 PM
Apr 2020

So I'll let at that. Hopefully he will learn from this if he survives.

localroger

(3,634 posts)
43. Correct. Traditionally it's held to be that it comes back to you threefold.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 05:13 PM
Apr 2020

It's important to get the right R-naught on these things so you can track their progress.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,925 posts)
40. According to the BBC, about an hour ago,
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 04:27 PM
Apr 2020

he was moved to intensive care as a precaution, in case he does need to be ventilated.

This is the man who has been willfully destroying the EU and Great Britain the last several years. I find it hard to work up any sympathy for him.

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
45. The silver lining in this is that the population will now take Covid seriously
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 05:49 PM
Apr 2020

There are still a lot of people who think it is nothing and it won't affect them. This news would be eye-opening for them.

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