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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:02 PM Apr 2020

The Guardian nails it " US's global reputation hits rock-bottom over Trump's coronavirus response"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/12/us-global-reputation-rock-bottom-donald-trump-coronavirus

International relations expert warns policy failure could do lasting damage as president insults allies and undermines alliances

(all of this is worth reading - I can only put 4 paragraphs, below - read it all at the link above)

Donald Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, which he once dismissed as a hoax, has been fiercely criticised at home as woefully inadequate to the point of irresponsibility.

Yet also thanks largely to Trump, a parallel disaster is unfolding across the world: the ruination of America’s reputation as a safe, trustworthy, competent international leader and partner.

snip

Trump’s surreal televised Covid-19 briefings are further undermining respect for US leadership. Trump regularly propagates false or misleading information, bets on hunches, argues with reporters and contradicts scientific and medical experts.

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Do Americans realise how far their country’s moral as well as financial stock has fallen? Perhaps at this time of extreme stress, it seems not to matter. But it will matter later on – for them and for the future international balance of power.

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(my thoughts - of course we realize it! Democrats do, anyway)

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The Guardian nails it " US's global reputation hits rock-bottom over Trump's coronavirus response" (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Apr 2020 OP
The USA hit rock bottom when shithole and the . . . Iliyah Apr 2020 #1
THIS malaise Apr 2020 #2
multiple coups RicROC Apr 2020 #5
Bingo dailytroubadour Apr 2020 #28
Not to forget the Bernie purists & Jill Stein ideologists. Lock him up. Apr 2020 #12
They're back for November. Person of Interest Apr 2020 #15
Same people who voted for Nader in 2000 Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #21
Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Apr 2020 #3
There's a bottom? Girard442 Apr 2020 #4
Exactly Lulu KC Apr 2020 #19
Kick and recommend Stuart G Apr 2020 #6
Vlad has achieved his goal. sarcasmo Apr 2020 #7
It's not Vlad alone. There are American wnylib Apr 2020 #24
Opening up the country on May 1st is all Vlad's idea, three phone calls in the last 10 days. sarcasmo Apr 2020 #33
May 1 was a significant date for Soviet Russia. wnylib Apr 2020 #36
Even with a solid, smart, competent post-Trump President, what country... Beartracks Apr 2020 #8
I used to say that 9/11 was the most successful terrorist attack of all time. Girard442 Apr 2020 #9
Diagree. grumpyduck Apr 2020 #10
K&R smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #11
No. Please don't tempt him. AllyCat Apr 2020 #13
he has succeeded in ruining America demtenjeep Apr 2020 #14
Except this pandemic is hitting every other country too lunatica Apr 2020 #16
If only China & Russia are left as superpowers; yes, thats a BAD thing. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #18
We have no idea what's happening in Russia and China lunatica Apr 2020 #25
According to the Kremlin, Moscow hospitals are overflowing oldsoftie Apr 2020 #31
Yes it is. That's why it was called a BALANCE of Powers from 1946 onward... Hekate Apr 2020 #27
Thank you! oldsoftie Apr 2020 #32
60million+ Deplorable Republican voters think they NoMoreRepugs Apr 2020 #17
With Trump, there is NO rock bottom PatSeg Apr 2020 #20
As I said in the days after the coup: all without a shot being fired Hekate Apr 2020 #22
Already Done Nacht Owl Apr 2020 #23
We're #1! We're #1! We're #1! Give me a foam finger to jam up 45's ass. Evolve Dammit Apr 2020 #26
Hell yes, I realize it. Mickju Apr 2020 #29
Excellent article, but one quibble.... SouthernCal_Dem Apr 2020 #30
"the ruination of America's reputation as a safe, trustworthy, competent intl. leader and partner" Martin Eden Apr 2020 #34
Yep. Painful. Horrifying. calimary Apr 2020 #35
The world is laughing at Trump and his incompetence. UCmeNdc Apr 2020 #37

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
5. multiple coups
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:34 PM
Apr 2020

2000 Bush v Gore

2004 Bush with Ohio and other irregulaties

Impeachment of Bill Clinton- attempted coup

2016 Trump coup

dailytroubadour

(41 posts)
28. Bingo
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 05:59 PM
Apr 2020

This and the gerrymandering and the Citizens United Supreme Court Decision. Chickens have come home and are roosting...

Lock him up.

(6,928 posts)
12. Not to forget the Bernie purists & Jill Stein ideologists.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:45 PM
Apr 2020

If they had voted for First Lady Clinton in three states instead of (whatever irresponsible "protest" attitudes), the orangevirus would not have fired the Obama/Biden pandemic response team, and all the other destruction of their good works).

Thousands of lives would have been saved from a horrible death.

Person of Interest

(365 posts)
15. They're back for November.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:40 PM
Apr 2020

And Senator Sander’s cultists are doing their very best to undermine the Democratic Party again this November.

wnylib

(21,449 posts)
24. It's not Vlad alone. There are American
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 05:18 PM
Apr 2020

oligarchs who are pleased with how Trump "handles" things. Regarding covid 19, Trump and his puppetmasters are quite happy to let covid 19 kill off "the weak, the old, and the minorities."

He is not bungling from incompetence, although it is true that he is not competent to deal with the situation. He is deliberately not only allowing people to die through inaction, but pushing the idea that it's ok to do that. Deliberate mass murder, not incompetence.

Lock 'em up and then string 'em up.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
33. Opening up the country on May 1st is all Vlad's idea, three phone calls in the last 10 days.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 06:27 PM
Apr 2020


Lock em up is right. Leavenworth.

wnylib

(21,449 posts)
36. May 1 was a significant date for Soviet Russia.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 06:34 AM
Apr 2020

Don't know what significance it might have now, if any.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
8. Even with a solid, smart, competent post-Trump President, what country...
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:39 PM
Apr 2020

... is going to want to work with the US on ANYTHING since there will forever by the threat that the next spiteful Republican asshat that manages to get in the White House is just going to undo everything?

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Girard442

(6,070 posts)
9. I used to say that 9/11 was the most successful terrorist attack of all time.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:39 PM
Apr 2020

The destruction of America through Russia's support of Trump and McConnell makes it look like petty vandalism by comparison.

grumpyduck

(6,234 posts)
10. Diagree.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:42 PM
Apr 2020

Equating the U.S. with this piece of amoeba excrement occupying the Oval Office is bullshit. The American people and the American government are still worthy of their long-standing reputation. The ones who have gone lower than rock bottom are the amoeba excrement and the fucking pricks in the Senate who have enabled him.

So yeah, talk about the Senate pricks all you want, but don't throw the American people and government in with them.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
16. Except this pandemic is hitting every other country too
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:43 PM
Apr 2020

The real effect will be what every country does AFTER the pandemic.

For us it looks like we’re electing someone who will actually help this country recover as well as possible. Other countries will do the same. Let’s see how the world comes out on the other side of the pandemic.

Perhaps we will emerge and not be a superpower. Who says that’s a bad thing? Only Jingoistic warmongers will cry over this. The rest of us have roots in every other country on the planet.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
25. We have no idea what's happening in Russia and China
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 05:27 PM
Apr 2020

This pandemic and it’s aftermath are far from over. Thinking that Putin and Xi are suddenly telling the truth is exactly what they want us to think and it’s a mistake. It’s part and parcel of their 20th Century propaganda.



Hekate

(90,679 posts)
27. Yes it is. That's why it was called a BALANCE of Powers from 1946 onward...
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 05:38 PM
Apr 2020

For all our mistakes as a nation, we WERE the indispensible counterweight to those 2 massive totalitarian regimes (now popularly renamed authoritarian).

Crap, and when I remember the knock-down drag-out fights I had with "progressives" over the Trans-Pacific Partnership, who they despised Obama for and used as one more reason to vote against Hillary. Right up to the last week before the election I met people IRL who simply could not see it was about reining in China.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,423 posts)
17. 60million+ Deplorable Republican voters think they
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:46 PM
Apr 2020

have a true leader leading the free world- great majority of the other 4billion+ adults on the planet know he’s an ignoramus - amazing how stupid a sizable portion of the American electorate is when u think about it.

Hekate

(90,679 posts)
22. As I said in the days after the coup: all without a shot being fired
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 05:15 PM
Apr 2020

Which begs the question: what the hell good are all those personal arsenals and Don't Tread On Me flags?

Anybody else old enough to remember Nikita Kruschchev's visit to the UN? Where he pounded the table with his shoe? And promised America: "We will bury you!"

Putin's the clever man who figured out how.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
34. "the ruination of America's reputation as a safe, trustworthy, competent intl. leader and partner"
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 07:07 PM
Apr 2020

Putin's plan coming to fruition.

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