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(130,895 posts)MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)no member of the press will ask him about it. Mr pResident, when you said the virus was a Democratic hoax, what exactly did you mean by that? Do you know the meaning of the word, hoax?
sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)The media in this country is a fucking joke.
They're all out for themselves. They couldn't care less about challenging the Fuhrer.
sheshe2
(83,755 posts)Some are better than others, however if you watched the briefings they aren't even allowed to get three words out of their mouth before he screams over them.
Sorry, I disagree with you. They challenge him all the time. Not sure what news stations you watch, yet CNN is doing a pretty fine job.
Perhaps you should watch 60 minutes as well.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213275811
sheshe2
(83,755 posts)Found another one from today.
So again, Really?
3. The Press????
The media in this country is a fucking joke.
They're all out for themselves. They couldn't care less about challenging the Fuhrer.
The press isn't the joke. The prez is.
I don't get why you denigrate the press and not the prez.
brewens
(13,583 posts)take Trump down. I ask for specific examples and they don't have one because Trump never told them. I did that knowing whatever they came up with would be something we are seeing happen, or not happen.
sheshe2
(83,755 posts)Not in those exact words, yet they have.
Trump Tangles with Reporters Asking About Coronavirus Hoax Comments, Dr. Fauci Being Muzzled
President Donald Trump became irritated during the coronavirus press conference over questions about his hoax comments and the supposed muzzling of NIAID director Dr. Anthony Fauci.
Speaking at a rally in South Carolina on Friday, Trump said that Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus and quoted a supporter who called it the new hoax to try to beat him.
During Saturdays presser, Trump was asked about the remarks.
You were down in Charleston last night using the word hoax when talking about Democrats, said one reporter. Somebody now is dead from this, do you regret that kind of talk?
No no no, hoax referring to the action that they take to try and pin this on somebody, because weve done such a good job, and the hoax is on them, said Trump. Im not talking about whats happening here, Im talking what theyre doing, thats the hoax. Thats just a continuation of the hoax, whether its the impeachment hoax or the Russia Russia Russia hoax.
More:
https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-tangles-with-reporters-asking-about-coronavirus-hoax-comments-dr-fauci-being-muzzled/
jmg257
(11,996 posts)What's True
During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/
ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)They are playing semantic games with their fact check.
First, he did reference the virus concern as a hoax. This is ipso facto calling the virus a hoax.
Second, a demagogue with no reputation for nuance, used the virus & hoax in the same sentence.
To attribute detailed syntactical skill & nuance to Trump is fallacious & nonsensical.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)lets say 2 yrs ago?
ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)But, this interpretation is pretty tortured.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)he dismissed the seriousness of the virus and called the Democratic concern a hoax, implying the virus was as well.
Afterward he started squealing fake news and said the virus itself was not a hoax.
FreeState
(10,572 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)he called it hoax
brewens
(13,583 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)"not what he meant"
"only kidding"
"didn't see it"
etc.
they are damn good at trying to gaslight
Windy City Charlie
(1,178 posts)I think what they're going to try and do is re-write history and claim it was the Democrats who were calling it a hoax. At this point, it's all about making sure the Trumpers don't desert him.
WestCoastYellowDog
(55 posts)Snopes tried to claim he was referring to the Democrats, but if you read the quote in entirety, it sounded like he called the coronavirus a hoax.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Snopes bent over backwards and tied themselves in knots to get that reading of what the cheap thug said. The critter doesn't quite speak English like a native, but the meaning conveyed was clear, and was the meaning the cheap thug intended to convey.
ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)...from a guy who sold himself on a total lack of same.
There are people at Snopes who have friends calling them pretzel.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)This reading of the statement is bloody-minded bullshit, engaged in to no better purpose than to demonstrate the supreme and purposeless cleverness of the person who contrived it.
malaise
(268,993 posts)was a hoax. He is the one who sat on it.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)In context, he referred to criticism of his response to the virus as "their new hoax".
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-calls-democrats-coronavirus-criticism-a-new-hoax
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485245-trump-hits-democrats-over-coronavirus-criticism-this-is-their-new-hoax
"The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," he told the crowd in North Charleston.
"One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn't work out too well," Trump said. "They tried the impeachment hoax."
"This is their new hoax," he said, apparently referring to Democrats' criticism of the official coronavirus response.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Is that neither criticism of his response to the spreading infection, nor expressions of concern for its consequences, can be a 'hoax' if the underlying event is not a hoax. If the claim is not that the danger of the virus is a hoax, there is no meaning at all to the statement. For that he was being criticized was true, and that concern over the danger of the contagion was being expressed, are plain facts.
The cheap thug's meaning when he referred to impeachment as a hoax was certainly that the charges underlying his impeachment were false, that they were concocted, made up --- that they were, in a word, a hoax. The meaning intended by branding as a hoax criticism over his response to the contagion, and concern for the danger posed by the contagion, is the same. It is a claim that the criticism is over made up things, and that the concern is over a made up thing.
"Defeat of a hated and dangerous enemy is something to be for!!!"
VOX
(22,976 posts)You have a gift. It is always a pleasure (and a bit humbling) to read your skillfully worded musings.
Good to have you aboard, Sir.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Heavens help me, but I like doing it....
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for!!!"
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Is that it wont convince a Trump supporter that he is a dangerous fool. It is merely an invitation to another rabbit hole.
Concurrent with that statement, he did not deny the reality of a virus per se.
ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)It won't change any cult member minds.
But, per se is an unfair standard.
Trump's appeal was a lack of nuance.
Applying nuance, post facto, to a "red meat" statement makes no sense.
He said what he meant, and he meant it was a hoax.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)I certainly do not. They are addicted to rage and racism, and must be written off as so many junkies. They must be overwhelmed by decent folk.
Shit-heels who support the cheap thug believed this a hoax when he said it was, and many still do. There are shit-heels taking pictures of hospitals to claim there are not really throngs of people ill to their deaths with this. There are shit-heels claiming the death figures are greatly overstated, are in fact lies to tarnish the cheap thug they worship. In some, belief the contagion is a hoax coexists easily with belief the cheap thug is energetically and even valiantly defeating the contagion almost single-handed against the obstruction of experts loyal to the 'deep state' who only want to wreck the economy. They would make the 'gangster gramaphones' Mr. Orwell derived the concept of doublethink from observing blush in admiration and shame they had been so outdone by mere half-educated shit-heels. People like this cannot be argued with, or be made to change their minds, by anything short of a club creasing their skulls. They are a lost cause, and no serious campaign to oust this cheap and traitorous thug from the White House can afford to waste the least smidgen of effort in attempts at convincing or courting these vile creatures, who have simply and willingly abdicated their responsibility to be thinking, self-aware, decent human beings.
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for!!!"
VOX
(22,976 posts)... tantamount to claiming that those warnings and alerts were fake, false untrue, and in Trumps inverted reality, were actually nothing more than scare-stories to make him look bad? And by implication, those warnings about the virus are not only something to be ignored, but something to be weaponized against Democrats, which they were indeed.
For awhile, social media was overflowing with belligerent garbage spread by bots and 45s cult members, all centered on the insane idea that the COVID virus warnings and projections were really a Democrat (sic) hoax to ruin Trumps fantastic, greatest-in-history presidency and his soaring economy.
Trump may not have specifically said, the virus is a hoax, but he drew the dots and connected half of them for his followers. Hes very cagey about directing his cult. Its the one thing he does well, regrettably.
heckles65
(549 posts)Now calling coronavirus itself a hoax and saying the Administration's response was ineffective in the face of a clear danger - what's the difference?? Either way Drumpf is saying "you have nothing to worry about."
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, Easily googled