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Any experts out there what was Trump's childhood like to make him so evil (Original Post) Tribetime Apr 2020 OP
His father was an asshole, but Little Donnie was such an awful child The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #1
I Faux pas Apr 2020 #2
I'm no expert, but I lived in NYC for decades, and the only thing I remember Trump doing that was secondwind Apr 2020 #3
His parents sent the entitled but dumb fuck to military school to get rid of him. brush Apr 2020 #4
His father was an asshole, but The Dotard has always been this way. RockRaven Apr 2020 #5
He has been evil since the day he was conceived. dalton99a Apr 2020 #6
I honestly believe he was also born evil. smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #20
In the Art of the Deal, he says he punched a teacher when he was a young child. Doodley Apr 2020 #7
Wasn't it a music teacher? (No wonder there are no concerts anymore at the White House.) fierywoman Apr 2020 #21
I've read several bios and here's my takeaway: no_hypocrisy Apr 2020 #8
Sounds like a perfect shitstorm of nature and nurture. Girard442 Apr 2020 #9
I have strong ties to NYMA. GP6971 Apr 2020 #17
I suspect there were no family vacations. Ilsa Apr 2020 #10
His older brother died of alcoholism, so who knows what went on in that home. cwydro Apr 2020 #11
We have heard of them/her: elleng Apr 2020 #15
'A single gene has been linked with being a psychopath' denem Apr 2020 #12
He was born with a lil mushroom and it just never got any bigger. C_U_L8R Apr 2020 #13
Entitlement. They must strip the empathy genes out before the age of eight. Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #14
he's edhopper Apr 2020 #16
I read a story that when Trump was young 2 marlakay Apr 2020 #18
Being a Freethinker I don't believe in the normal concept of evil. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #19
Nature vs Nurture safeinOhio Apr 2020 #22
Totally agree. But remember. Most don't become monster. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #26
Psychopathic I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #31
Here's Dr. McWhorter relaying incident where trump dangled a boy out an open window.. RestoreAmerica2020 Apr 2020 #23
I went through hell I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #24
I come from a highly dysfunctional family lunatica Apr 2020 #27
I remember doing exactly as you did I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #32
He had to be born that way. Dem2theMax Apr 2020 #25
Little is known about the childhood of poisonous snakes. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #28
The problem with Trump is he is allowed to repeatedly get away with the shit he does JI7 Apr 2020 #29
Psychopathy is hereditary. THEN there was his upbringing. CousinIT Apr 2020 #30
Agree - little psychopaths at 2 yrs old are already torturing animals and their siblings womanofthehills Apr 2020 #33
He suffers from affluenza Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #34

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
1. His father was an asshole, but Little Donnie was such an awful child
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:36 PM
Apr 2020

that he was discovered throwing rocks at a neighbor's baby in a playpen, and was so unmanageable that he was sent away to military school at about age 13. I think he was just a bad seed.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
3. I'm no expert, but I lived in NYC for decades, and the only thing I remember Trump doing that was
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:38 PM
Apr 2020

NICE, was he donated the ice skating rink in Central Park, so kids could ice skate.

brush

(53,876 posts)
4. His parents sent the entitled but dumb fuck to military school to get rid of him.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:39 PM
Apr 2020

They didn't want to deal with him either—imagine the Dunning-Kruger effect marching around in a military uniform.

RockRaven

(15,010 posts)
5. His father was an asshole, but The Dotard has always been this way.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:40 PM
Apr 2020

At least, that is what everybody says.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. I honestly believe he was also born evil.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:16 PM
Apr 2020

I really do. His parents didn't help things at all, but he was a bad seed from the beginning.

no_hypocrisy

(46,202 posts)
8. I've read several bios and here's my takeaway:
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:42 PM
Apr 2020

His father alternately ignored him and bullied him. His mother ignored him and let the maids handle him.

Around Kindergarten, he and his younger brother Robert were playing with blocks. Trump liked what he was building and asked Robert for more and more of his blocks. Trump liked his building so much that he got some glue and made it permanent, this denying his brother any blocks for the foreseeable future.

When he was under 8, he admitted that he punched his teacher in the abdomen simply b/c Trump didn't think he knew anything about music.

He was in competition with his older brother, Fred Sr., and desired to be the one who took over the business empire.

When he was 14, he rode subways and buses to Times Square, where he bought jackknives. He had such a collection in his proverbial underwear drawer, that when his father discovered them, he shipped Trump to the NY Military Academy.

While at the Military Academy, Trump learned the Art of Hazing and Persecution.

GP6971

(31,220 posts)
17. I have strong ties to NYMA.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:01 PM
Apr 2020

And you're absolutely correct...I'm sure the academy was glad to get rid of him when he graduated.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
10. I suspect there were no family vacations.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:49 PM
Apr 2020

No trips to see the Grand Canyon or Great Smoky Mountains, etc. I bet trump has never been to a state or national park unless he was performing official duties. And I hope he stays away. I don't want him trying to figure out how to build a trump monstrosity next to the Grand Canyon, which he probably thinks of as a large ditch.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
11. His older brother died of alcoholism, so who knows what went on in that home.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:50 PM
Apr 2020

I think he has other living siblings, but we never hear of them. Not surprised, actually.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
12. 'A single gene has been linked with being a psychopath'
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:50 PM
Apr 2020
A single gene has been linked with being a psychopath -- and it's very controversial

One gene in particular is linked with an increased risk of violent or aggressive behaviour, studies have found. Known as MAOA (monoamine oxidase A), this “warrior gene” controls the production of a protein that breaks down brain-signalling chemicals like dopamine, noradrenalin, and serotonin, which all influence mood.

But the idea of a “psychopath” gene remains controversial. A gene for psychopathy?

People with a variant of the gene, called MAOA-L, produce less of the protein that breaks down these signalling chemicals, which in turn causes them to build up. An excess of these chemicals, scientists believe, leads to impulsive behaviour (such as as hypersexuality), sleep disorders, mood swings, and violent tendencies.

James Fallon, a neuroscientist at the UC Irvine School of Medicine, was studying the brains of murderers and other violent criminals who are thought to be psychopaths, when he accidentally found out he might be one.

Not only did his brain scans look suspiciously like those of the murderers, he later found out that he also possesses the MAOA-L gene that’s been linked to aggression and antisocial behaviour.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/psychopath-gene-2015-7?r=US&IR=T

A complete lack of empathy does not determine a malicious, sadistic, or criminal personality. Psychopaths still have a choice. Choosing to (mainly) abide by social norms is by and large a less complicated path to success.

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
13. He was born with a lil mushroom and it just never got any bigger.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:53 PM
Apr 2020

His inadequacy became shame, resentment and ultimately hate for the world. That's all anyone needs to know about Donald John Trump.

marlakay

(11,498 posts)
18. I read a story that when Trump was young 2
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:09 PM
Apr 2020

His next brother was born and mom had to give all her attention to him because he was sickly and she pushed him away no love then sent him to military school young.

I personally think being raised with zero love is what created this selfish self absorbed monster.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Being a Freethinker I don't believe in the normal concept of evil.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:10 PM
Apr 2020

As in some magic good vs evil thing. Everything can be explained with science even if we don’t presently understand much, all things considered.

But most people are not born good or bad. The environment dictates that. But there is no doubt some people are born with a genetic quirk that makes them prone to psychotic behavior. Most never go all the way there and I’m sure we have all known some. But a person born that way put into a toxic childhood can develop into a monster. Most don’t inherit 500 million so just go to prison for run of the mill psychotic shit. Like killing pets or girlfriends.

safeinOhio

(32,727 posts)
22. Nature vs Nurture
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:27 PM
Apr 2020

A little of both can lead to the perfect storm.

I went to a military school in 60s and recall cadets that remind me of him. Well to do parents that abandon the kid and they can turn into monsters.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
31. Psychopathic
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:45 AM
Apr 2020

Is different than psychotic.

Psychosis is detachment from reality. I have been psychotic and it's like your brain betrayed you and reality becomes distorted and scary.

Being without empathy is narcissistic or psychopathic.

I hate when people lump people who have mental illness and trauma with psychopathy and narcissism.

Schizophrenia,manic depressive,and anxiety and trauma and disorders like that are totally different they not remove empathy.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,439 posts)
23. Here's Dr. McWhorter relaying incident where trump dangled a boy out an open window..
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:33 PM
Apr 2020

..from interview with Brian Williams on linguistics re: trump's inability to orate; lack of developmental progress.

I honestly was shocked, had never heard of this incident--what else don't we know about this malevolent fucking monster?


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/linguist-expert-trump-sounds-like-your-beer-swilling-uncle-1315606083641&ved=2ahUKEwjlg4irkdDoAhURqJ4KHQ-_BSQQwqsBMAB6BAgIEAQ&usg=AOvVaw0PaQ4i9BTF5KyuSko9cD56

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
24. I went through hell
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:37 PM
Apr 2020

As a kid, I never lost my empathy I am not narcissitic.

I think pigs like trump are born without souls like the rest of the monsters in human suits the dark triad personalities.

Saying and abused child becomes an abuser is something referred to as the vampire myth.

If abuse caused abusers the country would be over run with dark triad wastes of skin.

I have no empathy left for narcissists sociopaths and authoritarians.
I prefer to reserve my empathy to those who are not dark triad monsters.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
27. I come from a highly dysfunctional family
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:59 PM
Apr 2020

I can clearly remember when I was eight years old I made a conscious decision NEVER to be like my parents. I swore I would never do or say things that would destroy people the way my parents did. Many decades later I realized I was one of those people who stop the cycle of destructive abuse that runs in families.

I think people can choose consciously to not be monsters. And they can choose to be kind.

Evil people choose to be evil. It isn’t even a natural way to be. It takes forethought and practice and a will to follow that path. And I think people like Trump and McConnell choose it because they feel inadequate in some way and they prefer to get even with the world. They actually seek power so they can indulge their anger and resentment and feelings of inadequacy. It’s all done very consciously.

Dem2theMax

(9,654 posts)
25. He had to be born that way.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:43 PM
Apr 2020

My father had an absolutely horrendous childhood. He had every excuse in the book to become a horrible human being. But my dad was one of the nicest guys you would ever want to know.

Trump Was Born This Way.

JI7

(89,275 posts)
29. The problem with Trump is he is allowed to repeatedly get away with the shit he does
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 12:05 AM
Apr 2020

He isn't a victim of some horrible thing that happened to him.

He is a spoiled trashy worthless piece of shit.

There are other shitty people also but most of them will end up in prison or somewhere else where they do not end up having much money and power over others .

CousinIT

(9,259 posts)
30. Psychopathy is hereditary. THEN there was his upbringing.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 12:19 AM
Apr 2020

He was born evil and made moreso by his equally psychopath father.

womanofthehills

(8,774 posts)
33. Agree - little psychopaths at 2 yrs old are already torturing animals and their siblings
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:24 AM
Apr 2020

A good book is “The Psychopath Next Door “ by Martha Stout. Yrs ago I worked in a children’s hospital and a little 4 yr old boy patient went into a severely handicapped little girl ‘s hospital room and beat her up. We called in a psychologist to deal with the boy and the kid charmed the psychologist. It was so creepy.

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