AOC openly tries to weaken our nominee. WTF? Is she trying to help trump?

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With the worse president in the WH who has flattened our economy and bungled his response to the virus resulting in thousands dead and she wants to talk about already debunked rape allegations against our nominee.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213288567

[msongs]

1. she's looking for that tv camera red light indicating it's on her nt

[struggle4progress]

2. +

[Hortensis]

23. Right. Sanders' core of true believers needs a new leader,

are very angry, betrayed, unhappy right now, and Ocasio wants them to turn to her. Also a much broader range of young people who've been marinated in anti-Democratic Kool-Aid all their lives and haven't learned to question it.

For the true believers, though, opposing the Democratic Party is a big part of who they are (for older ones, long before Sanders appeared). They know Democrats are corrupt corporatists same as Republicans and VP Biden a rapist, etc. As usual, our nominee proved to be a person so terrible that he only confirmed and justified their duty to oppose the depraved Democratic Party. Like Hillary.

Btw, at one forum I checked, most were saying they'd vote Green, even though none had any idea of who or what that would be. A couple were open enough to suggest they'd go for Trump as the better of two bad choices. Again. None knew who their next leader would be, lost and needing to be found.

[treestar]

36. great choice of words

"marinated in anti-Democratic Kool-Aid."

[Cha]

3. She's helping trump and all his Fascist Toadies like

mitch mcconnel & bill barr with a story the m$m wouldn't touch because there was no there there.. but Brie J Gray did spread all over Twitter and it still didn't her candidate.. in fact..

Link to tweet

Maybe AOC should ask TR.. why she didn't name the one she's accusing all over twitter in her police report..?


Tara Reade knows it's a felony to file a false police report..

In two recent interviews with The Associated Press, Tara Reade alleged the assault occurred in the basement of a Capitol Hill office building in the spring of 1993. She filed a police report in Washington on Thursday saying she was the victim of a sexual assault by an unnamed person in 1993, a copy of which was obtained by the AP.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213275403

[Baclava]

4. She's on the Bernie or Bust bus? I figured, troublemakers

[mvd]

5. I don't get that impression

From what I saw, she was just trying to get Biden to develop a better health care plan. And she said she will eventually endorse Biden. I didn’t see it as trying to weaken him.

[betsuni]

7. Promoting a debunked rape allegation isn't about policy.

It's attacking character to make people disgusted so they won't vote for Democrats.

[Snake Plissken]

12. She can do that after the election ... or trying to get Trump to do it during his next term

The choice is hers

[mvd]

19. IMO voicing a policy concern is fine

It is an overreaction here to what she meant.

[betsuni]

21. What do you mean by "It is an overreaction here to what she meant"?

This isn't about policy.

[JI7]

16. isn't she a member of Congress ? why doesn't she try to get a better health care plan

to pass in congress ?

[rgbecker]

32. She co-sponsors the Medicare for All bill and promotes it every chance she gets.

Is your Rep on board? Have you written him/her to get them on board?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1384/cosponsors?r=1&s=1&q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22medicare+for+all%22%5D%2C%22party%22%3A%22all%22%7D

[Scurrilous]

35. Not everyone in Congress will support M4A.

Many share Biden's plan to use executive action to strengthen ACA and propose legislation to add needed changes while pressuring Congress to cooperate. It's a plan that takes into account that the GOP controls the Senate and that even best case scenarios say it's extremely iffy we claw back a majority in Nov.

Why jump on board M4A? It's going nowhere. AOC said a few months back that it's something she doesn't believe will ever pass in its current form.


AOC lowers expectations on Medicare for All, admitting Sanders 'can't wave a magic wand' to pass it

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287518784

[Amishman]

24. It doesn't have to be intentional for it to have that effect

She needs to learn patience and moderation. What would be acceptable for her constituents is very different from what is viable nationally.

[Dan]

6. Well, if she is going to do that, I hope that she is also

going to talk about the 18 or 19 allegations of sexual misconduct by Trump, to include one that is active right now.

[beachbumbob]

8. glad she is being primaried, lets see how "liberal" her district really is

[honest.abe]

26. When is her primary and who is running against her?

Thanks in advance. I would like to donate to her opponent.

[ProfessorGAC]

28. One Of The Primary Challengers...

...is a Randian crank. Very(!) radical libertarian ideas around SS & Medicare.
It's a challenge that will go nowhere.

[Ninsianna]

44. And the rest? She has actual.challengers who are addressing

the concerns of her constituents, whose needs she's not meeting.

[ProfessorGAC]

47. The Best Funded Is The Interloper

I think the primary challenges will fail, spectacularly.
And, I'm not a fawning supporter of AOC.

[OneBro]

9. Got a link?

A link and/or a quote would be helpful so we can know what exactly you’re talking about. Thanks!

[betsuni]

10. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/100213288567

[OneBro]

11. Thank you!

AOC is my favorite roller coaster from hell. Sometimes she has me shouting for joy that she’s fighting for the people:

. . . other times, like with this stuff, she has me shouting WTF AOC?!!!

[BlueMTexpat]

13. Mine too!

One of my greatest disappointments in her was that she endorsed Bernie rather than Elizabeth in the Dem primaries! I thought that she had better sense than that.

I am certainly NOT an AOC "hater" and never will be. But like you, I have my dark moments with her.

[Happy Hoosier]

33. Not to be dismissive....

.... but it's her lack of experience shining through. She is a remarkable political talent. But she is not tempered. She tend to speak then think. She really needs to dial that back.

[mvd]

20. Oh, I missed that one

Those allegations are so ridiculous that the media won’t even give them attention. I think it was a mistake for sure for her to bring them up. I like her a lot and glad she was a Bernie supporter, but I can admit when she’s wrong.

[Cha]

15. Well put.

[gordianot]

17. She is done for me and I defended her.

[RDANGELO]

18. I have always gotten the impression from her that above everything else, what she wanted to be

was a hero of the left, even at the expense of the party or the country. But this one time when I read what she said, I felt like she was just being completely honest. She didn't accuse Joe of anything; she didn't say that she believed the accuser. She just stated that it should be taken seriously.

[HarlanPepper]

30. She doesn't understand or know how to use the republicans as her foil

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46. Nah, the accusers allegations have changed several times and have been...

debunked and should not be taken seriously. AOC has to know that. If she doesn't she's not on top of things as she should be.

WTF? She's an elected representative of the Democratic Party and gives credibility to questionable rumors of the Democratic Party's presidential nominee in the midst of our campaign to get rid of the worse president ever? No way is that ok.

[honest.abe]

25. Fox news will be featuring her comments non-stop 24/7 as we approach Nov election day.

I really do not get what her strategy is. What benefit could this possible have to her or the progressive cause or to anyone else except Trump and the GOP? Is she just stupid or just wanting attention?

[empedocles]

29. AOC's desperate hunger for attention seems endless. Suspect AOC fully aware that

fox is the foundation for her national recognition - and whatever it takes, that's fine with her.

[helpisontheway]

27. I despise her for this. If she helps Trum get re-elected her careeer is over. Nt

[dalton99a]

31. Her self-image as a revolutionary cult figure and purity standard is blinding her

[rgbecker]

34. The hate on the DU for Democratic Party members is astounding.

In this case, for a party super delegate, no less. I guess we don't need Fox news anymore to do the dirty work of tearing down our party.

[tritsofme]

37. Smearing the presumptive Democratic nominee with discredited Republican talking points

Is absolutely despicable and shameful.

Did you have a different thought?

[brush]

43. So you think it's a good idea for a Dem rep to give debunked allegations...

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against our presidential nominee credibility? She's not just giving voice to repug talking points, she's also giving Fox news and 24/7 hate radio ammo against Biden for the campaign.

Please!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213288567

[Hav]

45. Any comments regarding her stupid and ignorant remarks

instead of judging the reactions to her stupid remarks?

[Tenngal]

39. always talking never listening..........

She has a lot to learn about listening, learning and keeping her mouth shut. I am not a fan.

[Fiendish Thingy]

41. Please post a link to AOC's direct quote that concerns you

Without a quote to reference, your OP is just rumour mongering.

[brush]

42. Here you go.

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The accuser's story has changed many times and the allegation has been debunked. AOC should have had better sense than to get bated into giving the charge credibility.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213288567

[rgbecker]

48. Have you looked through your Google list?

This one here really shows me the AOC that will be around for while and that will get my support, hands down. Articulate, clear and progressive.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/us/politics/aoc-progressives-joe-biden.html

The Democratic Party is a broad coalition and the DU reflects that....I don't get all the hate directed towards other Democrats when the TOS is so clear.

[brush]

49. She a one-term rep in no position to put herself on an equal level where our...

presidential nominee has to satisfy her policy needs to get her endorsement. She needs to get over herself. I'm sure Madame Speaker will have a word with her.

Here's the more specific link on that list I should've posted.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213288567

[ornotna]

50. Um, okay

Progressive New York Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez delivered an unequivocal endorsement of former Vice President Joe Biden’s candidacy, saying that voters “absolutely” should “rally behind our Democratic nominee in November.”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213290931

[klook]

51. OOPS! Thank you. (nt)