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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:40 PM Apr 2020

Dr. Oz: Reopening Schools "May Only Cost Us Two to Three Percent in Terms of Total Mortality"

From the article:

“We need our mojo back. Let’s start with things that are really critical to the nation where we think we might be able to open without getting into a lot of trouble,” he said. “I tell you, schools are a very appetizing opportunity. I just saw a nice piece in The Lancer arguing that the opening of schools may only cost us two to three percent in terms of total mortality. Any life is a life lost, but to get every child back in to a school where they’re safely being educated, being fed and making the most out of their lives with the theoretical risk on the backside, might be a trade-off some folks may consider.”


To read/see more:

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/04/16/dr-oz-reopening-schools-may-only-cost-us-two-to-three-percent-in-terms-of-total-mortality.html

First, Dr. Oz, the term "may only cost us..." is an assumption.

Second, do these schoolchildren have parents, and grandparents, and relatives with chronic conditions that might make them more susceptible? This man is speaking like a lunatic.
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Dr. Oz: Reopening Schools "May Only Cost Us Two to Three Percent in Terms of Total Mortality" (Original Post) guillaumeb Apr 2020 OP
Thanks Oprah Jake Stern Apr 2020 #1
What an idiot. What happened to this guy? At one time, I actually listened to him but NOW? SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #2
As I Said Earlier... ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #4
"schools are a very appetizing opportunity."... who says this crap in this context ?!!? uponit7771 Apr 2020 #3
An attention seeking idiot. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #5
if you are going there... RussBLib Apr 2020 #6
But they live among us all. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #7
There were about 900 kids in the Middle School where I taught. world wide wally Apr 2020 #8
Oz assumes that this will not affect him. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #9
He's working off a Lancet report. Igel Apr 2020 #10
Agreed. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #11

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
2. What an idiot. What happened to this guy? At one time, I actually listened to him but NOW?
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:51 PM
Apr 2020

What a certifiable idiot w/ an even worse quote 'we need our mojo back' ...

If we get our 'mojo' back, I hope that it's without 'dr. oz'! Worthless (worse than worthless) for even voicing the acceptable losses of children at any percentage amount (or for that matter, any age range is NOT acceptable).

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
4. As I Said Earlier...
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:55 PM
Apr 2020

...and got agreement; what happened to "First, do no harm." 7-10 million dead seems like doing harm.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
8. There were about 900 kids in the Middle School where I taught.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:23 PM
Apr 2020

This would mean that we could expect about 18 -27 of them to die in one school year.
Who the fuck is this acceptable to besides vampires?

I hope they never become officers in the armed forces if they are this cavalier with children's lives.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. Oz assumes that this will not affect him.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

The rest of us do not really matter to people like him. Many times, a crisis reveals who we really are.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
10. He's working off a Lancet report.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:46 PM
Apr 2020

It showed up in the NYT last week: https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/04/06/world/asia/06reuters-health-coronavirus-schools.html .

While that's Reuters, the reporter was talking about pre-publication access to ttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(20)30105-X/fulltext .


If we eliminate everything with "may" and "could" in it, we'd be hard-put to say much about anything. Esp. if things are modeled. The usual trick is that "may" and "could" mean "does" and "has" when we want it to, and are meaningless buzzing sounds when it's "may" or "could" something contrary to us. It's a bad practice, but it's widely if not wildly approved.

Even Cuomo's "30,000 ventilators" was based on hard numbers and solid facts, he said, among which he explicitly included "modeling." See what he did there? "May" = "must".

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. Agreed.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:50 PM
Apr 2020

All of these modal verbs indicate only possibility. Anytime a main verb is modified by a modal, the result is a guess.

This will work, versus this may work.

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