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Unbelievable. Fucking unbelievable. (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 OP
No, it's completely believable. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #1
sure you might die KatyMan Apr 2020 #4
Should start referring to him as "Governor Faarquad" Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #11
Ready to go jimfields33 Apr 2020 #23
What could go wrong? eom guillaumeb Apr 2020 #2
I hope it's a party where NO ONE attends donkeypoofed Apr 2020 #3
Does the Governor overrule the mayors in Texas?!! uponit7771 Apr 2020 #5
Retail to go is the concept. Online ordering, pickup and delivery. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #6
And then they will have to close right back down again VMA131Marine Apr 2020 #7
I have not heard of any testing MagickMuffin Apr 2020 #31
They won't need to test when the corpses start piling up. Salviati Apr 2020 #35
Suicide Cult. OhZone Apr 2020 #8
+1 Celerity Apr 2020 #39
Texans are tough dalton99a Apr 2020 #9
The real message is that collateral damage is acceptable. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #10
The ancient Aztecs had nothing on modern Texans DBoon Apr 2020 #16
Does Texas have a Boot Hill too? dem4decades Apr 2020 #15
Yes. It's called Texas. dchill Apr 2020 #37
And stupid. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #40
Please don't call Texans stupid. SilasSouleII Apr 2020 #49
Obviously didn't mean all. Life long friend lives in SA. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #50
Dallas county will not abide Horse with no Name Apr 2020 #12
its moving from the areas taking it seriously to the areas calling it a hoax now..... Takket Apr 2020 #13
Dying for $$$ live love laugh Apr 2020 #14
Doesn't seem like they are opening all that much - whats the scoop? jmg257 Apr 2020 #17
Pleeeeeese stay in TX and do not travel into CA. BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #18
The only good thing? California is closed. Dem2theMax Apr 2020 #29
Sadly, it is all too believable Soph0571 Apr 2020 #19
He can open but people won't go Buckeyeblue Apr 2020 #20
"A go few will." left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 #21
LOL. I'm slowly losing my mind... Buckeyeblue Apr 2020 #22
People are going to be on their own soon and they need to start using common sense. hadEnuf Apr 2020 #24
He's being mealy mouthed about it blogslut Apr 2020 #25
Abbott is a POS, but this is more propaganda for the Trumpligans JCMach1 Apr 2020 #26
Vermont is going back also LoveMyCali Apr 2020 #27
We've been following this today since it affects my husband's business in Vermont. Vinca Apr 2020 #30
I'm just kind of surprised LoveMyCali Apr 2020 #38
Cut him some slack, Abbott is thinking of the suffering funeral business. Hassler Apr 2020 #28
It's because Abbott is trumps fluffer Javaman Apr 2020 #32
Nothing Surprises me With Texas cydney_wong Apr 2020 #33
I live in Texas RussBLib Apr 2020 #34
Texas, a whole other country abakan Apr 2020 #36
I don't have a problem with some states slowly trying it out. Steelrolled Apr 2020 #41
Very Republican world wide wally Apr 2020 #42
Hmmm....Joel Olsteen and other MEGA churchs have anything to do with this?? Nah..... Bengus81 Apr 2020 #43
Mayors are the ones who shut the big cities down, not Abbott. Lonestarblue Apr 2020 #44
"I don"t know whether the governor has the power to overturn the mayors' orders." left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 #51
Without testing he doesn't know, duforsure Apr 2020 #45
The real true believer wingnuts here in rural SE Texas TxVietVet Apr 2020 #46
Totally believable...and Kensan Apr 2020 #47
Gaslighting. slumcamper Apr 2020 #48
Please see this thread... Pluvious Apr 2020 #52
Have a nice day left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 #53

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
1. No, it's completely believable.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:02 PM
Apr 2020

This is Abbott we're talking about. Business is priority one, two, ten, and three hundred.

KatyMan

(4,190 posts)
4. sure you might die
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:09 PM
Apr 2020

but think of the extra value your work would contribute to the shareholders!


fuckers

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
11. Should start referring to him as "Governor Faarquad"
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:18 PM
Apr 2020

"Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make" Hell, their LG was the one that got this whole suicide death train running. :-/

jimfields33

(15,787 posts)
23. Ready to go
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:08 PM
Apr 2020

Stores can take orders to curbside customers.


Hardly doomsday. Restaurants are doing that now.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
6. Retail to go is the concept. Online ordering, pickup and delivery.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:10 PM
Apr 2020

The opening is staged and can be pulled back if there is a spike.

I'm not a fan of Abbott's, it seems like he is running the pilot program that Trump was talking about.

We are Guinea Pigs. Great.

See you on the other side...

VMA131Marine

(4,139 posts)
7. And then they will have to close right back down again
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:11 PM
Apr 2020

When cases start to spike.

Does Texas even have a testing and tracing program in place. All the epidemiological experts are saying that, before anything can open back up, widespread testing needs to be available, people who test positive have to be quarantined, and the contacts of people who test positive have to be traced and tested to prevent one case from turning into dozens or hundreds. If Texas isn’t planning to do that then this little experiment won’t last long and it won’t end well.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
35. They won't need to test when the corpses start piling up.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
Apr 2020

That's the problem for republicans, 7 months until the election is too long to get by on bullshit.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
10. The real message is that collateral damage is acceptable.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:15 PM
Apr 2020

It's not so much that Texans are tough. It's that losses are acceptable to protect the economy. That's always Abbott's first priority.

DBoon

(22,363 posts)
16. The ancient Aztecs had nothing on modern Texans
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:42 PM
Apr 2020

Like everything else, Texas will do human sacrifice in a big way

gibraltar72

(7,503 posts)
50. Obviously didn't mean all. Life long friend lives in SA.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:30 PM
Apr 2020

Administration is stupid and probably criminal.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
12. Dallas county will not abide
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:21 PM
Apr 2020

Yesterday it was said that if you are caught without a mask on in public, you will get fined $1000

This is nuts. The good thing is that most Democrats and Republicans I know are unhappy with this dictate.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
18. Pleeeeeese stay in TX and do not travel into CA.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:56 PM
Apr 2020

They are basically allowing the virus to spread to other states. Oh goodie!

Dem2theMax

(9,651 posts)
29. The only good thing? California is closed.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:28 PM
Apr 2020

Nothing to do here. So hopefully they will all stay in Texas.

hadEnuf

(2,189 posts)
24. People are going to be on their own soon and they need to start using common sense.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:10 PM
Apr 2020

Trump and his asshole sycophant governors have become dangerous to listen to and are clearly not out for the best interests of the people in the least. They are having brainwashed citizens risk their own well being to try and make themselves look good.

That's some really sick dictator-like shit. The real Communists used to do stuff like this.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)
25. He's being mealy mouthed about it
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:14 PM
Apr 2020

Appointing councils that are nothing more than the top office holders of the state. The businesses than can open have to comply with "retail-to-go" policies, whatever that means. Greg Abbott sucks so much.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
26. Abbott is a POS, but this is more propaganda for the Trumpligans
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:14 PM
Apr 2020

Very little is opened by this... In fact, schools are closed by this for remainder of the year in his order.

Dallas and most of the cities don't peak until May for the initial outbreak spike.

LoveMyCali

(2,015 posts)
27. Vermont is going back also
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:19 PM
Apr 2020

I live in upstate NY but a friend of mine works in VT and she was notified today that it's back to work as usual on Monday.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
30. We've been following this today since it affects my husband's business in Vermont.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:31 PM
Apr 2020

It's a limited opening for "low contact" professionals and there are all kinds of restrictions about the number of people who can be in one place at one time, face masks, etc. Most people are still stuck at home for the time being.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
32. It's because Abbott is trumps fluffer
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:37 PM
Apr 2020

He thinks the orange asshole is getting another term and has hopes of being tapped for some fucked up positioninhis cabinet other that fluffer at large

cydney_wong

(11 posts)
33. Nothing Surprises me With Texas
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:42 PM
Apr 2020

I lived there twice, San Antonio and Abilene, and nothing surprises me with Texas.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
41. I don't have a problem with some states slowly trying it out.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 06:09 PM
Apr 2020

Everyone else will learn from it. And Texas is in much better shape than states like Michigan.

The reality is that we are all going to be living in a world of ongoing infections and deaths over the next couple years - we just need to learn how best to control it in the face of conflicting needs. This goes for the entire world. Until we get a good vaccine, there will always be some risk.

For people who want to go out, if they get infected (and can expect to recover), they will be contributing to herd immunity, which will help others. For those who want to stay in, and are fortunate enough to be able to do so, they can wait it out.

For states opening up, I would like to see regulations on employers to allow working from home whenever possible (if the employee wants to) and providing workplace protection to the extent possible (if the employee wants it). I don't expect this in Texas, but other states might.

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
44. Mayors are the ones who shut the big cities down, not Abbott.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 06:48 PM
Apr 2020

I don”t know whether the governor has the power to overturn the mayors’ orders. I know that Texas has tested very few people and that cases are increasing every day, so we have not seen a peak.

The problem with online ordering and curbside pickup or delivery is that stores are so overwhelmed with orders that it’s impossible even to place an order. And if you happen to get in to the system, it’s three to four weeks before you can pick up your groceries. I’m not willing to go without fresh vegetables that long. I’m in Austin, and I hope the grocery stores here continue the safety protocol they’ve been using. Even if the governor forces other businesses to open, they may not see many customers. I will go only to the grocery until the number of cases is decreasing, not increasing.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
51. "I don"t know whether the governor has the power to overturn the mayors' orders."
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 08:11 PM
Apr 2020

It happened in S.C. where my brother lives.
Mayors issued stay at home orders, and shut down a lot of nonessential businesses.

The Republican governor said they didn't have the authority and he reversed their orders.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
45. Without testing he doesn't know,
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 06:50 PM
Apr 2020

Abbott hasn't tested enough to know whats about to happen. 170,000 tests done in a state with just under 29 million. He could infect many more without testing. When it does he'll work to cover it up.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
46. The real true believer wingnuts here in rural SE Texas
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 06:56 PM
Apr 2020

Will follow thru with Abbott’s wishes. There will be quiet a few who will have a keg party and head on out on their last trip.
As much as they hate their opponents, I say party on, with as many of your friends you can gather up. My wife and I will continue on with the same rules we live by now.

Kensan

(180 posts)
47. Totally believable...and
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:00 PM
Apr 2020

Is it wrong that I assume the worst in these people, and expect to see an increase in corporate owned life insurance policies? You know, maybe just take out a little policy on a special few employees that might have a few underlying health issues.

I try to be positive, and think there’s a limit to the depths people will go. Problem is, they traded in the shovels and hired Halliburton to use a deep sea mining drill. They want to see if it’s possible to cleave the Earth in two.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
48. Gaslighting.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:00 PM
Apr 2020

Gaslighting is manipulation intended to confuse at the least, or doubt your own sanity at most.

It is directed particularly toward individuals of higher cognitive functioning, e.g., the ability to analyze, make connections, draw inferences, and--particularly--synthesize information from multiple sources.

We are not crazy. Tthe powers that prevail at this moment seek to confuse and confound us with irrational statements and actions, though. Stay the course. Resist.

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