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EarlG

(21,947 posts)
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:25 PM Apr 2020

So there's no such thing as conservatism any more, right?

Their ideology has been entirely replaced with contrarianism. They don't have any ideas of their own, they just want to know what our ideas are so they can do the exact opposite.

Quality, affordable health care? NO, LET'S MAKE IT WORSE AND MORE EXPENSIVE!

Increase taxes on rich people and big corporations? NO, LET'S GIVE THEM MORE OF OUR MONEY!

Make it easier for everyone to vote? NO, LET'S MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT!

Stay at home so you don't catch a deadly disease? NO, LET'S GO OUT AND MEET UP IN LARGE GROUPS!

Democratic governors should just order everyone in their states not to jump off a bridge.

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So there's no such thing as conservatism any more, right? (Original Post) EarlG Apr 2020 OP
It is and has always been bullshit jberryhill Apr 2020 #1
Right, the term 'conservative' has been misused for years. elleng Apr 2020 #2
From Stuart Stevens EleanorR Apr 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #4
I'm still waiting to hear of a good conservative idea. NRaleighLiberal Apr 2020 #5
I swear if I ever hear FISCAL CONSERVATIVE, EVER again Skittles Apr 2020 #6
depends which type you are talking about Celerity Apr 2020 #7
RADICAL RIGHT-WING ZEALOTS. VOX Apr 2020 #8
Brilliant post! Solomon Apr 2020 #9
Fascism is the Neo-Conservatism... and we know what to do with fascists! abqtommy Apr 2020 #10
Amen...... nt Hotler Apr 2020 #11
Sure, and their "philosophy" is pretty simple... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #12
Self aggrandizing is the only thing they stand for these days. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #13

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Celerity

(43,349 posts)
7. depends which type you are talking about
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:49 PM
Apr 2020

Liberal conservatism, Conservative liberalism, Fiscal conservatism, and Paternalistic conservatism are on the wane or dead, but National and traditional conservatism, Libertarian conservatism, Social conservatism, Defending inequality, Religious conservatism, and Authoritarian conservatism are all on the rise.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

Conservatism is a political and social philosophy promoting traditional social institutions in the context of culture and civilization. The central tenets of conservatism include tradition, organic society, hierarchy, authority, and property rights. Conservatives seek to preserve a range of institutions such as religion, parliamentary government, and property rights, with the aim of emphasizing social stability and continuity. The more traditional elements—reactionaries—oppose modernism and seek a return to "the way things were".

The first established use of the term in a political context originated in 1818 with François-René de Chateaubriand during the period of Bourbon Restoration that sought to roll back the policies of the French Revolution. Historically associated with right-wing politics, the term has since been used to describe a wide range of views. There is no single set of policies regarded as conservative because the meaning of conservatism depends on what is considered traditional in a given place and time. Thus conservatives from different parts of the world—each upholding their respective traditions—may disagree on a wide range of issues. Edmund Burke, an 18th-century politician who opposed the French Revolution, but supported the American Revolution, is credited as one of the main theorists of conservatism in Great Britain in the 1790s.

According to Quintin Hogg, the chairman of the British Conservative Party in 1959: "Conservatism is not so much a philosophy as an attitude, a constant force, performing a timeless function in the development of a free society, and corresponding to a deep and permanent requirement of human nature itself".

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VOX

(22,976 posts)
8. RADICAL RIGHT-WING ZEALOTS.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:58 PM
Apr 2020

These feral idiots don’t give a flying fuck about anyone but themselves. They take stupidity to a vastly lower level. They don’t know the first goddamned thing about the Constitution. Hell, they can’t even read.

Wounded Bear

(58,651 posts)
12. Sure, and their "philosophy" is pretty simple...
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 08:47 PM
Apr 2020
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith
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