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Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:29 AM Apr 2020

(edited) Operation Gridlock protests planned in different cities, ARREST THEM!:

Last edited Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Edited to add, deliberately blocking traffic is not a legal form of protest, even in normal times.
I hope every single city that sees this activity sends law enforcement out and/or passes ordinances with fines for obstructing traffic, which I expect is already a citation in most jurisdictions.

Original post below:

I hope local law enforcement is preparing for these, found via Facebook posts.
Check your Nextdoor and other sources, notify police if you care to.
In my county, these people could be cited for being out without justification against a public order to shelter in place.



Reopen Missouri Rally - April 21st at 12:00pm Jefferson City at the state capitol. "Attendees should only display American flags, state of Missouri flags or non partisan signs"

Reopen California Rally - April 20th at 12:00pm Sacramento at the capitol

Rally for Virginia - April 24th at 12:00pm in Richmond at the capitol

Operation Gridlock Kansas - April 23rd at 12:00pm Topeka, state Capitol

Operation Gridlock Pennsylvania - April 20th at 12:00pm Harrisburg at the capitol

Operation Gridlock Denver - April 19th at 1:00pm Capitol Hill

Operation Gridlock Annapolis/Maryland - April 19th at 2:00pm at the capitol

Operation Gridlock Arizona - April 19th at 12:00pm Phoenix capitol

Operation Gridlock Illinois - April 19th at 1:00pm Springfield capitol

Free Florida rally - April 18th at 2:00pm Tallahassee capitol (on foot and in vehicle)

Operation Gridlock Los Angeles - April 21st at 11:30am Los Angeles city hall

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(edited) Operation Gridlock protests planned in different cities, ARREST THEM!: (Original Post) Alex4Martinez Apr 2020 OP
I'd love to see someone take a bulldozer to those cars blocking hospitals... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #1
How about a police car with a push bumper...operation gridlock..what gridlock.. asiliveandbreathe Apr 2020 #13
Capital suggestion! . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #30
Note to self: Learn how to operate bulldozer Initech Apr 2020 #36
Brought to you by Education Secretary Betsy DeVos dalton99a Apr 2020 #2
People Assembled Under Arms, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #3
Are you suggesting a firefight? denem Apr 2020 #10
To Put It Bluntly, Yes The Magistrate Apr 2020 #17
Perfect response Sir. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2020 #19
The states that allow open carry Chainfire Apr 2020 #23
It Remains An Armed Crowd, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #25
And, if they are breaking no laws? Chainfire Apr 2020 #33
100% Correct!! Wuddles440 Apr 2020 #26
Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #28
Agreed. An armed rabble with mixed weapons in a needlessly confrontational situation is not Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #31
Don't these same people always whine about how cars are weapons just like guns? mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #11
Our local police have been issuing $1,000 fines just for being here from out of county. Alex4Martinez Apr 2020 #21
How can they be insurrectionists Chainfire Apr 2020 #24
This Is Reminiscent Of Mao's 'Cultural Revolution', Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #27
"It's a recipe for success! Blocking traffic always wins American hearts and mind!" struggle4progress Apr 2020 #4
Especially blocking hospital entrances Lindsay Apr 2020 #7
I saw rumor in Oregon as well, not sure of the date. MerryBlooms Apr 2020 #5
"Attendees should only display ... non partisan sign" denem Apr 2020 #6
The cult loves to worship in public dalton99a Apr 2020 #15
Notice most of these are car protests. Wonder why. Squinch Apr 2020 #8
It IS paradoxical, isn't it? mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #16
Exactly. I think we should tell them, "Go ahead. If you want to Squinch Apr 2020 #39
If they are blocking hospital OR any other emergency facility bluestarone Apr 2020 #9
Good luck in Tallahassee FL. They will deal with this. Lochloosa Apr 2020 #12
Springfield! LOL! ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #14
It Is The Capitol, Though, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #18
Symbolic Nonsense ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #20
True, Sir, It Is That The Magistrate Apr 2020 #22
Extreme minority Moral Compass Apr 2020 #29
How many ambulances will they block? eShirl Apr 2020 #32
Remember the scene Chainfire Apr 2020 #34
You reckon why Chainfire Apr 2020 #35
Gridlock in Harrisburg? PCIntern Apr 2020 #37
This shit is going to go on until law enforcement confronts these dipshits maxrandb Apr 2020 #38
Don't feed the trolls. Squinch Apr 2020 #40

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
1. I'd love to see someone take a bulldozer to those cars blocking hospitals...
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:30 AM
Apr 2020

just plow through them and make a road for the ambulances.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
13. How about a police car with a push bumper...operation gridlock..what gridlock..
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:40 AM
Apr 2020

I do hope law enforcement is ready..this IS on the IMPEACHED one..

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
3. People Assembled Under Arms, Sir
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:32 AM
Apr 2020

Are not, by definition, engaged in peaceful assembly to petition for redress of grievances. They are insurrectionists, and ought to be treated accordingly by local authorities.


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
10. Are you suggesting a firefight?
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:37 AM
Apr 2020

Historically, an armed insurrection would be treated with extreme prejudice.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
17. To Put It Bluntly, Yes
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:45 AM
Apr 2020

If the arms are not laid down, there really is no other proper choice. The very definition of a state includes the sole right to employ force for political aims within its jurisdiction.

These shit-heels can fly all the nazi and confederate flags they wish, but carrying arms crosses a line everyone knows is there. I have on several occasions displayed a weapon, and never have done so without intent of conveying dire threat without having to speak a word. These people know exactly what they are doing when they bear arms.

An armed crowd is not a peaceable assembly. The Constitutional text is quite clear, specifying "the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
23. The states that allow open carry
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:56 AM
Apr 2020

get what they get. It will be interesting to see if anyone openly carries in Florida where it is against the law. Of course DeSatinist will probably be marching with the other Nazis.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
25. It Remains An Armed Crowd, Sir
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:00 PM
Apr 2020

Police have the authority to order its dispersal, and enforce same if not obeyed.

These people need to be put to the test of making the choice --- do I shoot at an officer of the law, or obey lawful order to disperse?


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
33. And, if they are breaking no laws?
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:36 PM
Apr 2020

Armed crowds are not illegal in many states. Do you want to make folk heroes out of these guys by arresting them or illegally baiting them into a gun fight?

The legislators of these states decided that it would be unconstitutional to deny the people the right to walk around armed. They did it because the people of the states demanded it. The Supreme court has not checked them on it. The law is the law, we can't pick and choose which ones we like to see enforced. Our options are to replace the lawmakers.

Arrest them when they break the law, be patient, they will give you the chance.

Wuddles440

(1,121 posts)
26. 100% Correct!!
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:03 PM
Apr 2020

And continuing to tolerate these subversive actions only emboldens the perpetrators and normalizes their criminality. There's a time and place to exercise restraint - this is not one of them!

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
28. Exactly, Sir
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:09 PM
Apr 2020

These posturing shit-heels need to be put to the choice --- do I shoot at an officer of the law, or obey the order of an officer of the law?


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
31. Agreed. An armed rabble with mixed weapons in a needlessly confrontational situation is not
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:28 PM
Apr 2020

An untrained armed overweight rabble with mixed weapons and no organization or discipline in a needlessly confrontational situation is not "a well regulated militia".

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. Don't these same people always whine about how cars are weapons just like guns?
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:37 AM
Apr 2020

Even MORE dangerous, in fact?

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
21. Our local police have been issuing $1,000 fines just for being here from out of county.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:55 AM
Apr 2020

It has helped us have one of the lowest infection rates in the state despite being next to a hot spot, Santa Clara County.

Arriving with assault rifles would not be met with even the slightest approval.


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Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
24. How can they be insurrectionists
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:59 AM
Apr 2020

If they are carrying out the dictates of the President of the United States?

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
27. This Is Reminiscent Of Mao's 'Cultural Revolution', Sir
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:07 PM
Apr 2020

In which Mao exhorted activist students to 'bombard the headquarters', attacking local Party leadership seen as disloyal or otherwise hampering his desires.

Under our peculiar structures, states remain sovereign governments, subordinated to the Federal authority as regards foreign policy and issuance of currency, and certain Federal laws and regulations apply within their borders. There is no authority whatever under which a resident of the White House can make lawful an insurrection against the authority of a state's governor, even if he calls openly on people to undertake the action.


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. It IS paradoxical, isn't it?
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:43 AM
Apr 2020

I'd imagine they'd argue that it's done so as to avoid getting arrested for gathering/not social distancing.

But in reality it's cause they're SCARED to do so, even as they protest the very rules preventing them from doing so.

Right-Wingers are a bunch of phonies and liars. Just like their man-child hero soiling our WH.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
39. Exactly. I think we should tell them, "Go ahead. If you want to
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:54 PM
Apr 2020

defy the isolation rules, all you have to do is sign a form that says that if you get the virus, you will "tough it out" at home like the real man you are. And if you pass it to your innocent family members, you won't bring them to the hospital either. Once that's signed, you are free to go about your business as you wish."

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
9. If they are blocking hospital OR any other emergency facility
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:35 AM
Apr 2020

They should be told to remove or IMPOUNDED! and FINED! Other than that let them poison themselves.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
14. Springfield! LOL!
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:40 AM
Apr 2020

They're something like the 6th city in IL. And it's about an 18th the size of Chicago.
They're not going to gridlock anything.
Idiots!

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
18. It Is The Capitol, Though, Sir
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:47 AM
Apr 2020

And I doubt 'Chicago's finest' would display much patience with an armed crowd, especially under the formidable Mayor Lightfoot....


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
20. Symbolic Nonsense
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:52 AM
Apr 2020

I get it's the capitol, but it's called Operation Gridlock. They're not gridlocking anything in Springfield!

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
22. True, Sir, It Is That
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:56 AM
Apr 2020

In fact it is symbolic nonesense wherever it is undertaken. These are mere penny packets, it is stretching the point even to call them crowds. They represent no actual rising popular sentiment.


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

Moral Compass

(1,520 posts)
29. Extreme minority
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:17 PM
Apr 2020

While the Trump liberation tweets are truly alarming and break completely new ground in terms of Executive malfeasance please note the tininess of these radical fascist nihilist "crowds".

Seems like this much ado about nothing.

If these fools did cross over into armed insurrection there are so few of them that any rebellion would be over almost instantly.

Trump's only hope now is to short circuit the election. He knows he can't win. Not enough of the crazies.

He has committed a very clear impeachable offense which is clearly covered under the Constitution. If the election happens he loses.

He's panicked and thrashing.

But he's occupying the presidency and his actions and words are going to be used to inflame the crazies and give him an excuse to impose martial law.

Things are going to get very weird, very fast.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
34. Remember the scene
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:48 PM
Apr 2020

from the movie Back Draft The Mercedes was parked in front of the fire hydrant, so the firefighter knocked out the windows on both sides of the car and pulled the hose through the car to fight the fire? (it brought cheers from the audience I was in)

Someone blocking hospital access should warned to move, if they don't move instantly, they should simply be bulldozed out of the way. If the vehicle driver makes too much of a fuss, then they should be arrested for disturbing the peace. Then the city needs to fine them and charge them for the heavy equipment use and the tow of their wrecked vehicle.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
35. You reckon why
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:51 PM
Apr 2020

you don't see one scheduled in NY? I thing that the NY governor would know exactly what to do with people disrupting traffic around his hospitals.

maxrandb

(15,324 posts)
38. This shit is going to go on until law enforcement confronts these dipshits
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:55 PM
Apr 2020

I'm telling you. They have no fear of being arrested. All the news media and Hate Radio they listen to tell them they are conquering heroes.

Put a couple in jail.

Sieze some vehicles.

Take some substitute penises from them and they'll disappear back into mom's basement.

Do nothing and you simply enable the next assault on human decency

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