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TexasTowelie

(112,558 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:50 PM Apr 2020

Fact check: Herd immunity would not fully stop the spread of coronavirus

Claim: Herd immunity, not social distancing, would stop COVID-19

Although most experts are encouraging the public to practice social distancing to “flatten the curve” – a phrase used to describe the attempt to distribute the lifespan of the outbreak more gradually over time so as not to overwhelm the health care system – some people have disagreed with that tactic.

Knut Wittkowski, a former biostatistician at the Rockefeller University, claimed social distancing is not the right way to handle the pandemic.

Wittkowski was quoted in a WND article – which cited a YouTube video and was shared extensively on Facebook – as saying that achieving herd immunity is the only thing that stops respiratory diseases like COVID-19. He advocated for schools to be opened because within weeks, enough people will have been exposed to the virus and achieved immunity to stop the spread of the virus.

The Rockefeller University released a statement on April 13 addressing Wittkowski’s claim and stating his views “do not represent the views of the Rockefeller University, its leadership, or its faculty.”

Read more: https://www.alicetx.com/zz/news/20200418/fact-check-herd-immunity-would-not-fully-stop-spread-of-coronavirus

Well geez, if you can't believe an article on WND what can you believe?

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Fact check: Herd immunity would not fully stop the spread of coronavirus (Original Post) TexasTowelie Apr 2020 OP
Yes, no, maybe. Igel Apr 2020 #1
That's a big maybe because we don't know yet how much immunity, if any, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #2
There are definite examples of people who have recovered from symptoms, and still test positive, greyl Apr 2020 #13
Nothing will FULLY stop spreading, not even a vaccine. Hoyt Apr 2020 #3
True, TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #4
Was thinking of folks who don't get vaccinated. Definitely think a vaccine Hoyt Apr 2020 #5
plus the anti-vaxxers will refuse (how many I have no clue) Celerity Apr 2020 #6
geo-blocked Celerity Apr 2020 #7
Sorry about that. TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #9
I found it at the original source Celerity Apr 2020 #10
Wonderful! TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #11
thanks for the article, ironic as now our head state health people are saying Celerity Apr 2020 #12
Nothing is 100% Baclava Apr 2020 #8
It has worked in the past, for example in the flu pandemic of '57, marybourg Apr 2020 #14

Igel

(35,382 posts)
1. Yes, no, maybe.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:40 PM
Apr 2020

It would be like measles is. There are those who can contract it. They wouldn't be that common.

It wouldn't stop individual cases, or possibly short chains, but it would stop widespread transmission and push the number of infected people in a transmission chain to zero fairly quickly.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,924 posts)
2. That's a big maybe because we don't know yet how much immunity, if any,
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:11 PM
Apr 2020

people get if they've had the virus. Getting a common cold - some of which are caused by different corona viruses - doesn't make you immune to colds because those viruses mutate so often. The characteristics of COVID-19 wrt mutation are not yet known. And we don't have reliable test for immunity, either.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
13. There are definite examples of people who have recovered from symptoms, and still test positive,
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:42 AM
Apr 2020

and other examples of "recoveries" testing negative only to test positive again later.

We need testing on the scale of Bic and Pilot pen production and distribution, and I don't see what the problem is, other than the fact that dotard has not yet utilized The Defense Production Act.

TexasTowelie

(112,558 posts)
4. True,
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:37 PM
Apr 2020

but usually the symptoms associated with a vaccine are usually far less severe than the symptoms that are caused by a live virus.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Was thinking of folks who don't get vaccinated. Definitely think a vaccine
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:49 PM
Apr 2020

would be a game changer, but assuming they actually find one, it’s aways off.

Hopefully, something, or a combination of things including better treatment, will beat this chit.

TexasTowelie

(112,558 posts)
9. Sorry about that.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:09 AM
Apr 2020

I saw the same article at other media sites associated with that publisher. You might want to try searching on the title of the article to see if it is available.

Celerity

(43,635 posts)
12. thanks for the article, ironic as now our head state health people are saying
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:38 AM
Apr 2020

Stockholm will reach 'herd immunity' within weeks (per our head State Health administrators)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213312321


marybourg

(12,643 posts)
14. It has worked in the past, for example in the flu pandemic of '57,
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 01:17 AM
Apr 2020

but this virus is far too deadly to to allow nature to take its course.

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