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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you think you might have had COVID-19 before we knew it was in the country?
Two people who died in California in February apparently had it and were infected through community spread, not travel. If this is true, than there might be many more people who had it and died or recovered without knowing what it was.
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FirstLight
(14,362 posts)they are all about 18
she's still having some chest pains ... so yea...
milestogo
(18,536 posts)It was worse than the usual flu. I did return to work after 3 days. There was something going around the office, but I don't know what it was, to tell you the truth. Nobody became very ill.
intrepidity
(7,964 posts)2nd week of Jan thru end of Jan. Northern CA.
milestogo
(18,536 posts)I'm in WI, last out of state travel was in October.
intrepidity
(7,964 posts)from my son, from WA state....
Have not been ill since. Not a single cold or anything.
Skittles
(160,711 posts)yes
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)it wasn't as bad as the flu.
I was very oddly fatigued, had muscle aches, a dry cough, and some uncharacteristic wheeziness, which I usually never have. The strangest symptom was that I lost my taste/smell for a couple of weeks, which has now ended up being a sign of coronavirus. The illness lingered and just when I would think I was getting better, I would relapse. It took at least four weeks for me to feel normal.
Not sure if it was the virus, but I have a feeling it might have been.
milestogo
(18,536 posts)GoneRonin
(26 posts)I had something very similar after being in California but i also had pink eye for days in the middle of the body aches. The pink eye was so abnormal at the time, but now sounds like it might have been an indicator.
Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)felt like I had an eye infection.
My son visited from California for the holidays and I think I may have caught the virus from him.
Iwasthere
(3,376 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)and my illness was not as bad as the flu.
I have been much sicker with the flu than with what I had in January.
I was still functional and never felt like I had to be in bed.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Middle two weeks of January.
I had the exact muscle aches that I've gotten with the flu for my entire life (I just turned 61).
I don't know if I had a fever. I didn't get any chills, so I never checked. Chills always come with a fever, for me.
I had some chest congestion, which I wrote off to recently giving up tobacco. I had quit smoking mid-December,
and was coughing stuff up after that. I figured it was my lungs "clearing out", so to speak. That's over with now.
For two of the days when I was down, the aches were bad, and I really had no energy. I also had a headache for these two days.
My normal energy level is pretty high, and the only time I normally get headaches is from not eating properly (2-3 times a year).
I didn't notice if my senses of taste and smell were off. That happens to me with even a common cold, so I wouldn't have seen that as a problem.
EllieBC
(3,400 posts)Back in February we all had a fever, muscle ache, exhaustion, cough (though I did have congestion too in my sinuses). We all had our flu shot. They only tested me and my oldest for influenza and both were negative. We all had it anywhere from 1 week to 3 weeks. It hit us all differently and at different severity levels. But no was not as severe as the influenza I had a good 15 years ago.
Early March
Became ill with flu like symptoms
tight chest shortness of breath, dry cough slight fever 99-100 overall achy, appetite low Slept most of the time
8 days of acute illness, still not back to feeling well
If given these symptoms today I would have considered it possible CV-19.
broiles
(1,405 posts)He was on oxygen and developed a-fib. Our daughter and I had milder symptoms. It took us 3 weeks to recover. He is just now feeling over it. No tests were available then.
ecstatic
(34,572 posts)long before February.
Think about it. At least 2 people died from it in early February, but apparently shit didn't hit the fan.
Why? How? What made it suddenly morph (or activate) into this horror freak show we're seeing now?
milestogo
(18,536 posts)People dont seek medical care unless its pretty bad. And the coronavirus is pretty bad.
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)Can't say it was worse than the flu, though. Headaches, weariness, and respiratory problems. Not much fever, if any. Sounds like Covid 19 to me.
woodsprite
(12,265 posts)and sheer utter exhaustion I had never felt before. Cough that I handled with Nyquil. I remember thinking if the drastic drainage didn't stop, I would have to go to the ER because I felt like I was going to drown. For my daughter and I, it lasted up through New Years and were still fighting it a bit when we went back to work a week later - so 4 wks or more. It stuck in my mind due to the massive amount of drainage and the exhaustion. When someone asks how I'm doing, no matter what, I usually say "fine". I don't think I've ever really answer that question truthfully when I've felt less than fine, except for the Sunday after the fever. Someone asked, and I surprised myself by saying "Just exhausted. More than I've ever felt before."
Whatever it was we had seemed to have been very contagious. The lady that stands next to me in our bell choir had it the week after Thanksgiving, lots of coughing, fever, sinus. She came to bell practice when the fever went down. Within 7-10 days 4 more of us had it - me (her stand partner), 2 women on the other side of her, and the director who stands right in front of her.
At the time I was thinking that maybe it was regular flu and would have been worse if I hadn't have gotten my flu shot and pneumonia shot at the end of October.
milestogo
(18,536 posts)They were out of the vaccine. A week later I got sick. The cough and loss of voice were the worst part. I don't know how many bottles of nyquil I went through, but I set a record.
At the time I thought it happened because I missed getting the vaccine, but maybe it wouldn't have mattered.
qazplm135
(7,555 posts)in part because there are so many different symptoms for this thing.
I had...something over my birthday in late January. I was fully congested, and for several nights sleeping only happened for a couple of hours a night because I was so congested, more than I think I have ever been. But I didn't really have serious fatigue, no loss of smell or appetite, and if I had a fever it was a very mild one.
I didn't really have a runny nose. I can't remember if my nose was stuffed or not but I don't think it was.
At any rate, I'm positive it wasn't the flu. None of the signs of the flu. So it was either just a really bad cold or a cold combined with some sort of allergic reaction maybe? Or it was the CV.
I think that's the thing. it's just too hard to know without testing and trying to think back and match up symptoms.
Nay
(12,051 posts)sort of cold -- very sore throat, bad headache, and flu-like fatigue for 2 or 3 days. I had a dry cough too, but that lasted a week. But little to no congestion. I never took my temp so I have no idea what it was. My hubby got a milder version for a few days.
I remember thinking that it was the oddest illness I can remember having; I just felt very strange and sick, but it didn't match any illness in memory. Did I have the mild version of coronavirus? I have no idea. I'd love to find out.
Jersey Devil
(10,357 posts)No fever or other symptoms except for shortness of breath when walking which has since gone away. The cough was so bad we were going to make dr appts but it eased up after about 10 days
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I almost never have headaches, so that got my attention. I do get a sore throat maybe once every couple of years, so that was not truly abnormal.
marybourg
(13,239 posts)went for many weeks. Unusual for me.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)To notice my head aching was shocking, I actually thought about calling my Doctor about catscans. I am allergic to a lot of things, food, water at a low level, something in the air when I stay outside too long (truly a weird one, but I get a congested upper throat for hours after), hot drinks, so it isn't abnormal for me to have slightly runny eyes for an hour or so, or have nasal mucus after I get exposed to an allergen that triggers a response, so some symptoms of covid19 are fairly normal for me on a low level, it would be hard for me to say that I had it.
BusyBeingBest
(8,415 posts)right after a trip to Arizona, my husband became ill with a fever, chills, severe cough, night sweats for about four days. Weeks later, still had the night sweats and a lingering cough. One morning, walking in to work from the parking lot, he had an episode of shortness of breath so bad he had to sit down once he got into the building. He chalked it up to his ACE inhibitor doing something funky to his lungs. An otherwise healthy guy, 49, normal weight, only has high blood pressure, and he'd had the flu shot in October. We still don't know what that was. But we're suspicious.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)With all that is going on, I'd assume the majority of the respodents who said 'worse than the flu' knew the inference would be that they had covid.
I see this mentioned by a lot of right-wingers who want everything opened back up to normal. They already had covid, their kids or parents and friends had covid already. It's no big deal. Anyone who is playing up their past flu for attention is contributing to this bullshit.
Maybe someone with knowledge in statistics could chime in, could hospital admissions, death rates and any other data we know be an indication of how long this has been around and how many people might have been infected?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Yeah, there was some stuff going around earlier this year. No, significant numbers of persons were not dying, and there was no abnormal spike in mortality consistent with this recurring bullshit notion that everyones seasonal cold was covid-19.
milestogo
(18,536 posts)Did they die of a "recurring bullshit notion"?
muriel_volestrangler
(102,754 posts)https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092802/
So, no, there are still no confirmed cases of people who died from coronavirus in the USA before it started in Washington. We need to get our facts straight.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,110 posts)Wasnt full blown of course but I rarely get sick. Im very fortunate to have an iron constitution. I was half sick for three weeks with a relentless dry cough that just wouldnt go away. I had gone to a killer old school house party with over 100 people in attendance. A couple days later more than twenty people were sick, some severe enough to go to the hospital with what they thought was flu or pneumonia. I believe it was this virus but obviously I cant say for sure.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I flew from Austin to Philadelphia after attending a conference the last week in January.
I was sick for a week after, and then my wife went through it as well.
During my annual physical, about mid February, my doctor said there was something going around. The thing is, there was no significant mortality associated with whatever it was.
phylny
(8,619 posts)He is 92. On January 28, he fell ill. He lived alone and by the time I called and didnt get him on the phone the next day and called his neighbor, he was on the floor, too weak to get up, and was gravely ill.
He had no fever, but pulse ox was low, had pneumonia, kidney failure, heart failure, and needed bi-pap, oxygen, nebulizer treatments, had red eyes, and had lost his sense of smell and taste.
He was hospitalized for a week and in rehab for a month. His pulse ox was low without oxygen and breathing treatments for almost the whole month. He is now living with my brother and is doing remarkably well. We are hoping we can find out if he had it because he tested negative for the seasonal flu.
JDC
(10,545 posts)Many, many people from my company got sick afterwards. Our meetings corresponded with a gun, ammo and tactical show up strip from our center and i know many, many people got sick there as well. ( I have a couple of friends in that industry ).
Likely just a bad flu, but it was the worst flu I can recall. Others also felt that way. My daughter, then wife got sick several weeks later in succession. It was the sickest I've seen my wife. Both of them still have lingering coughs.
Maru Kitteh
(29,312 posts)Mr. Maru:
- Running nose for 2 1/2 weeks solid
- Body aches
- Fatigue
- Fever of 100.4 (only lasted about 3 hours)
- Loss of appetite r/t reduced ability to taste/smell for about 3 days
- Said his skin hurt
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Gave it to wife and she had the lingering respiratory issues with hers that we hear with COVID and she coudln't get out of bed for days as well.
Preteen daughter got it as well and was tested but was negative for flu also.
Other two daughters under 8 DID NOT get it even though we had been coughing on them and they had been with us throughout.
muriel_volestrangler
(102,754 posts)forthemiddle
(1,441 posts)They said the first death was confirmed as being two weeks before originally recorded.
They are assuming the first case could have been up to 6 weeks earlier, putting it end of January beginning of February.
ProfessorGAC
(71,014 posts)The week before Christmas.
Subbed at a small school south of me for a sick JrHi teacher.
He missed 3 days. I got sick 5 days after my first day there.
In 9 school days, me, 3 full time teachers, the secretary, the lady who runs the food service and 12 kids got sick within 2 weeks of Christmas. I think I'm missing one, because it was 19 people out of a total of 130, students & staff.
All had bronchitis, with the secretary having pneumonia. I never ran a fever, but now I'm reading a decent % of infections don't involve fever. (I forget the % in that article)
Hekate
(95,577 posts)...reasons, most of them having to do with a belief in science vs. magical thinking.
I think it was early January my sis got really sick, couldn't breathe, had to go to ER more than once. She's asthmatic, but never like this before. They ended up keeping her 5 days -- used one of those long swabs to check for flu ("It felt like they were scraping my brain" and finally decided it was asthma related because they had nothing else. Now she wonders.
In mid-February my daughter's 3 boys got sick with something flu-like. The youngest two bounced back, but the oldest (15) took a couple of weeks to get better. Can't remember if she did as well, but I was on my way to Surgery, so... She's pretty sure this was a light case of the CV and that all her beliefs about robust health have borne fruit. But she is also an anti-vaxxer and thinks Gov. Newsom is an asshole.
Me, I'm staying at home as much as possible at my age and stage.
LAS14
(14,860 posts)... happened before we knew it was in the country, of course you weren't tested. Or did you mean tested for the flu???
11 Bravo
(24,078 posts)Coincidentally, sitting directly across the aisle from me was an elderly Asian woman who engaged in a trans-continental coughing fit.
I feel fine now, but believe it's entirely possible that I was exposed to Covid 19 on that flight.