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MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 09:55 AM Apr 2020

Trump's "embers of coronavirus" nonsense.

Yesterday, Donald Trump started using the phrase "embers of coronavirus" when referring to the disease in the Fall of 2020. In doing so, he is projecting the idea that there will just be a few cases of COVID-19 by that time. There is no evidence to support that. It is just his way of minimizing the disease. It's a framing technique, and he did not think it up, I'm sure. Someone fed him that phrase to use to try to damp down people's fears.

There is zero reason to suppose that this pandemic is going to slack off seriously during the Summer months. There is no sign of that happening, and we have only 2020 to look at, so we have no idea what the pandemic will look like in the future.

Trump is incapable of thinking of the use of such a phrase, frankly. No doubt, he hopes the disease will just stop or slow down. We all do. The phrase he is using, however, "embers of coronavirus" is a very clever psychological use of language. He did not invent the phrase. Someone gave it to him, and he used it multiple times in yesterday's presser.

I'm curious to learn who fed him that phrase. It is propaganda language. Stephen Miller? It wasn't one of the doctors. They carefully avoided using that phrase and tried to counter the idea that the pandemic won't be a problem in the Fall.

It's a subtle language cue, and I'm interesting in how Trump was fed the phrase and by whom.

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lark

(23,099 posts)
4. Don't think he's that smart.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:00 AM
Apr 2020

He's white bread soaked in milk, just there for his whiteness and his pretense of religion.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
7. I don't think so. "Embers" is a very specific word, with
Reply to 5X (Reply #5)
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:13 AM
Apr 2020

clear connotations of something that is going away soon. It was chosen specifically for use, I'm certain. Remnants is also a good word, but it doesn't evoke the same response as "embers." Almost everyone thinks of the phrase "dying embers" when they hear the word, since that is its most common use in English.

No, it was chosen for effect.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
12. And embers, of course
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:09 AM
Apr 2020

can be reignited at any time, given the proper circumstances. Given that Trump literally poured Oxygen on the COVID-19 fires for 2-3 months and the fire is still spreading and continuing to burn and he is still basically using a garden hose, reluctantly at that, to try to contain it, I have no reasonable confidence that it will just vanish anytime soon.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
6. The New 'It'll Be Gone In April, Like A Miracle', Sir
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:08 AM
Apr 2020

Hoping and believing this will go away is really all he has....


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
8. It is Newspeak, I believe, Sir.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:14 AM
Apr 2020

Very deliberate and specifically planned. I just don't know who is doing it.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
13. Yes. I mentioned him upthread.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:14 AM
Apr 2020

He could easily be the source of the phrase. I know he writes a lot of what Trump reads at the podium. Perhaps he is a propagandist with very good language skills. I don't know much about him, really.

crickets

(25,978 posts)
16. Whoops, brain not working up to speed this morning!
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:41 AM
Apr 2020

Stephen Miller has been credited with some of the more ghoulish passages in speeches trump has made, so it wouldn't surprise me if he gives trump little verbal nuggets from day to day.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
15. They certainly can do that.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:18 AM
Apr 2020

However, the goal here is to imply a fire dying out. They aren't using that phrase to make people think. It's aimed at the unconscious mind, not the rational mind.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
14. Actually, the intent of such phrases is not to make people think.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:15 AM
Apr 2020

It is to evoke an unconscious response.

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