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MANative

(4,112 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:23 AM Apr 2020

Really struggling today

Last edited Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Feels like an unending avalanche.

Found out yesterday that my former business partner and very dear friend passed (not COVID). I'd been trying to reach her for several weeks with no response, and her ex-husband didn't notify me when it happened in late Feb. Devastated by her loss. We were close friends and colleagues for over 20 years.

Huge business pressures - I've already had to furlough more than half of my employees and the finances are adding up to show that I'm probably going to need to lay off about 20% of my workforce by July 1 to allow the company to survive. This is keeping me up at night, every night. I have such a great crew and I don't know how I'm going to decide who stays and who goes.

Hubby is furloughed and understandably a bit resentful that I'm still working (12 hour days), so we're not in the greatest place. Even after nearly 40 years together, sometimes a little space is necessary.

My sister's BIL was rushed to ER last night with probable appendicitis and the hospital wouldn't allow any family in to be with him, so everyone is worried about that.

Heard about Elizabeth Warren's brother and that sent me into a flood of tears.

Just needed to get this out, or it would entirely overwhelm me. No reply necessary.

EDITED TO ADD: Thank you all so much for your kind and thoughtful words. They have helped more than I can express and reinforce why I love this community so much. I stepped away for a bit to meet with my CFO to solidify our plan for how we'd approach the layoffs and I feel like we have started to build an approach that will be very fair and will minimize the number of people we need to cut. The nature of the work makes it challenging to cut hours versus jobs, but we're going to look at the departments where that might be feasible.

You've helped me think about my strength and how to pull on those reserves. I am immensely grateful.

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Really struggling today (Original Post) MANative Apr 2020 OP
I have only to say TEB Apr 2020 #1
Thank you, TEB MANative Apr 2020 #6
Love to you my friend TEB Apr 2020 #12
I still wanted to send you a cyberhug! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2020 #2
which I gratefully accept and return... MANative Apr 2020 #4
:) Thank you! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2020 #23
I am glad... Newest Reality Apr 2020 #3
May the tempest make the shore evermore sweet. Moostache Apr 2020 #5
Ralph Waldo Emerson...... democrank Apr 2020 #7
Reaching out like you have is good. On the far side of this catastrophe you will both be stronger.nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #8
I'm so sorry. LiberalLoner Apr 2020 #9
Stay well and safe UpInArms Apr 2020 #10
I'm so sorry for your loss. CrispyQ Apr 2020 #11
.. Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #13
I am so sorry for your loss. sheshe2 Apr 2020 #14
💕💕💕 MLAA Apr 2020 #15
Hugs Ninga Apr 2020 #16
I'm so sorry for your loss. Sometimes it seems as like all the rain comes smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #17
It's what we're here for. Solomon Apr 2020 #18
I'm sending good energy your way... CaptainTruth Apr 2020 #19
In a Way Roy Rolling Apr 2020 #20
It's okay to admit we struggle hamsterjill Apr 2020 #21
Call a meeting with your employees mercuryblues Apr 2020 #22
All I can do brer cat Apr 2020 #24
I know everything is just hard right now. Initech Apr 2020 #25
Just this: You're NOT alone. We're all alone TOGETHER. n/t TygrBright Apr 2020 #26
I'm so sorry you lost your dear, dear friend. Native Apr 2020 #27
You have a lot on your shoulders right now. Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #28
you should know you're not alone, barbtries Apr 2020 #29
I've been indoors alone for 7 weeks now Warpy Apr 2020 #30
I'm sorry for everything you're going through. WhiskeyWulf Apr 2020 #31
These are tough times... maybe the toughest for some of us Blue Owl Apr 2020 #32
I'm sorry for all you are dealing with. cate94 Apr 2020 #33
If they're a great crew, don't be afraid to include them in the process. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #34
I am curious if cutting pay would help at all Skittles Apr 2020 #35
That's one of the possibilities I'm considering MANative Apr 2020 #38
Vent Away! ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #36
You are doing the right thing lunatica Apr 2020 #37
There's one thing about the DU community - there are MANY pairs of good strong shoulders here. calimary Apr 2020 #39
Bless you. I hope you feel better soon. Maraya1969 Apr 2020 #40
Hoping to see you on the other side of the crucible GeoWilliam750 Apr 2020 #41
(((((VIBES))))) Jamastiene Apr 2020 #42
Smiles Bigredhunk Apr 2020 #43

TEB

(12,842 posts)
1. I have only to say
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:25 AM
Apr 2020

You did not cause this shit storm we will get on the other side of this take care

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
3. I am glad...
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:28 AM
Apr 2020

I am glad you did that and expressed your feelings and experience.

That sure is a tough load you have. It sounds to me like it may be difficult, but you can muster up what you need to weather the storm. Your tears are a good sign that you are still in touch with your feelings, so no matter how they feel, be in touch with your inner workings as best you can.

Keep on adjusting your sails and I wish you fortitude, much strength, (it's in there) and compassion as we ride this wave. Take it as it comes and use your presence as a guide.

Be Well!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
5. May the tempest make the shore evermore sweet.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:30 AM
Apr 2020

Hang in there, that's a lot for anyone to handle in a year let alone a few weeks time.

Hoping for better days for us all as soon as possible.

democrank

(11,094 posts)
7. Ralph Waldo Emerson......
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:33 AM
Apr 2020

But in the mud and scum of things
there always, always something sings.


Try to find that little something and hold on.

I’m sending you a hug~

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
9. I'm so sorry.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:33 AM
Apr 2020

You are struggling with so many losses and so much on your shoulders. I hope for better times soon.

CrispyQ

(36,463 posts)
11. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:40 AM
Apr 2020

And for the big decisions facing you. Positive thoughts & vibes coming your way.

sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
14. I am so sorry for your loss.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:48 AM
Apr 2020

I know it is difficult to cope these days. Just hang in there the best you can.

Hugs 🤗

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. I'm so sorry for your loss. Sometimes it seems as like all the rain comes
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:54 AM
Apr 2020

at once and it's hard to bear. Take good care of yourself and make sure you get enough sleep and eat well. Check back in to let us know how things are going.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
20. In a Way
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:59 AM
Apr 2020

You’re unloading has made others feel more, or less-fortunate.

Regardless, your actions have beneficial consequences—we all need to be more aware more of others, especially now.

Thanks for helping me, I hope hearing how you’ve helped others also gives you a bit of strength.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
21. It's okay to admit we struggle
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 12:02 PM
Apr 2020

We have feelings. We have empathy. Hopes. Desires. Dreams. We want others to do well.

That’s why we are Democrats. I am touched by your concern for others as expressed in your post.

Please take care of yourself so that you can continue, as you are able, to care for those others.

Sending peace and comfort.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
22. Call a meeting with your employees
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 12:05 PM
Apr 2020

Can you keep them, but cut their hours? Would they prefer that?

I wish you the best.

Initech

(100,069 posts)
25. I know everything is just hard right now.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 12:37 PM
Apr 2020

This virus has just come in like a wrecking ball and destroyed everything we care about. We'll get through this, and it's going to be a long and frustrating year ahead. My hope is that we come out of this with a renewed sense of purpose.

Native

(5,942 posts)
27. I'm so sorry you lost your dear, dear friend.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 12:56 PM
Apr 2020

That alone is cause for massive grieving, and yet with all else going on, it must be so hard to process a loss like that when you're reeling from everything else.

We had to layoff employees, who were also friends, when the economy plummeted the last go round. Just know this, when you are a caring boss/employer, your employees know what's in your heart. You'll have to make some hard choices, but they're lucky to have someone like you making them, someone who genuinely cares about their welfare, than someone who may not.

We kept employees on longer than most other people did, and we ended up in a worse place financially because of it than our former employees ultimately did. So while there's a time to be caring, don't lose sight of your welfare and that of those you love.

You'll get through this, and you'll make the best choices/decisions you're capable of. Just remember to be kind to yourself while you're going through it all.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
28. You have a lot on your shoulders right now.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:04 PM
Apr 2020

I hope being able to vent here is a comfort to you. So sorry for the loss of your friend.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
29. you should know you're not alone,
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:21 PM
Apr 2020

as alone as you feel.

yesterday i was lonely. i video chatted with a couple people, called and talked on the phone to a friend who was feeling the same way, and watched Groundhog Day, because that feels kind of like life right now.

we really are in this together and this is how we stay strong when shit gets real and really hard.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
30. I've been indoors alone for 7 weeks now
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 02:36 PM
Apr 2020

I'm an extreme introvert but I'm getting slightly toasted around the edges. The mailman delivered a package yesterday and said howdy and I could have kissed him just for the minimal contact but I didn't because a) I'm old and b) social distancing. Weird how things work.

I am so sorry about your business problems, but you've got a tremendous amount of company out there. I am so afraid a lot of small businesses are going to go under, and small business is the largest employer. We are headed for a depression, no doubt. I do hope you can hang onto as many of your employees, active and furloughed, as possible. Retraining costs are steep.

I don't know how this will all play out in the coming two years or so. I do know if we don't get rid of the fucking GOP, things will be a lot worse than they need to be.

Vote him away!

WhiskeyWulf

(569 posts)
31. I'm sorry for everything you're going through.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 02:37 PM
Apr 2020

I don't have any words of wisdom, but I'm wishing you well.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,343 posts)
34. If they're a great crew, don't be afraid to include them in the process.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:09 PM
Apr 2020

All together, y'all might come up with a better solution.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
38. That's one of the possibilities I'm considering
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:54 PM
Apr 2020

Thanks!

Adding... We were fortunate to obtain a PPPL loan, so there are limits to how much we can cut pay and still have the loan forgiven. Endless number crunching, but my entire management team is taking a 25% cut through the end of the year. That will help.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
36. Vent Away!
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:15 PM
Apr 2020

Hang in there. We hit 40 years married in March.
Rough patches are mostly easy to smooth over with time!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
37. You are doing the right thing
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:26 PM
Apr 2020

It’s a measure of your innate being how you choose what to do in hard times. There are two ways to choose. You do what you want to do or you do what is best for all under the circumstances. It’s a hard test of character when no matter what you choose the outcome is hard.

You're obviously choosing what is best for everyone. The measure of your character is in how it keeps you up at night and how much it hurts you to have to let some of your people go. Just remember that keeping your business afloat is saving a lot of people from hardship.

calimary

(81,251 posts)
39. There's one thing about the DU community - there are MANY pairs of good strong shoulders here.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 07:20 PM
Apr 2020

Can't see 'em. Can only sense them in the thoughts and feelings that people post. And they're CERTAINLY there. Lifting you up, providing virtual support and strength, even while not in a physical sense. Emotionally, sympathetically, and empathetically though - very much a different story, thankfully.

I think it's helpful to read what everybody's posting about how this is affecting them. It widens our world, and our view and our filter of it. Husband and I are just a couple of retirees who are no longer involved in an active business/office sense, so there's no other way that WE can be helped to understand than to hear and share and read and learn how other people live and cope and need and struggle. I'm sorry you have to go through this with your business. I've been lucky enough to be part of some small businesses where it feels almost like your second family more than a mere job with coworkers. Everybody shares in the triumphs and good news, and consoles each other in adversity.

I hope you and your team can weather this storm all the way out. I hope you get the help you need, and I hope they all do, too. You sound like a boss who doesn't have a spread sheet where a human heart would be.

Virtual hugs!

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
41. Hoping to see you on the other side of the crucible
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 05:12 AM
Apr 2020

Wishing you the best of luck, and endless reserves of strength.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
42. (((((VIBES)))))
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 06:02 AM
Apr 2020

DU Vibes are legendary. I don't believe in much, but DU vibes have helped even me before. I hope these add to the love and help.

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