So the meat packing companies won't face any liability with the Con's Executive Order?

[malaise]

Is it genocide yet?

[brewens]

1. To help "safely quarantine healthy workers" or something like that. The military could

build tent cities for the workers to all live in. That would be if they wanted to keep their jobs, so it wouldn't be exactly like a prison work camp.

[malaise]

2. History will not be kind to this monster

seriously

[Cattledog]

3. It sucked working in those places before Covid-19.

Now you can get infected, maybe die, and you & your family have no recourse.

[Shermann]

4. It's a reasonable move

The Feds should be subsidizing hazard pay though.

[redstatebluegirl]

5. No it isn't a "reasonable move".

[Shermann]

21. CNN is reporting that farmers are cheering this move nt

[LanternWaste]

6. What objective measure do you use to conclude it's reasonable?

[Shermann]

9. With the US on a war footing, the food supply chain is critically important to national security

It isn't fair to the food industry workers.

The whole situation is even less fair to health care workers. They are more critical, are in even more danger, and are far more difficult to replace.

And yet here we are loosening restrictions regardless. Let's not pussy foot around what that really means. The hardships won't be distributed evenly, never have never will.

Food industry workers who don't show up will be quickly replaced, as callous as that may be.

We're at war folks.

[Cattledog]

12. Quickly replaced? Really?

From 2019

“Slaughter/processing facilities tend to be heavily located in rural areas, which can have tighter labor markets than the numbers even suggest,” says Katelyn McCullock, director of the Livestock Marketing Information Center, based in Littleton, Colo. “It’s a challenge to find workers to fill the roles as necessary.”

For one, these are skilled-labor jobs. “Generally, they are not for someone who can be picked up off the street and put into this role,” McCullock says. “They require training.”

https://www.provisioneronline.com/articles/108519-state-of-the-meat-poultry-industry-workforce-2019

[Rae]

13. Exactly this.

This is why it's a huge issue. These are skilled workers, not easily replaced.

[Shermann]

15. The article makes a weak case

...even by 2019 standards when it was written (when the unemployment rate was 3.7%)

It asserts that these jobs are highly skilled while only demonstrating that they are merely difficult. The article also has to juggle the concession that these jobs are low-paying and "rely on a fairly substantial immigrant workforce".

So this article is right out the window in 2020 with our 20% unemployment rate. I get no joy from smashing your counter-argument.

[pecosbob]

18. Yes...easily replaced with unemployment near thirty percent

I guess many here never saw any of the employment fliers Tyson and Smithfield have been circulating in Latin American countries for decades...

[malaise]

8. Of course

Most of the workers are just dispensable minorities

[SoonerPride]

7. And if so many employees get too sick to work how can the plant function?

And how does en executive order bypass liability law

I don't think it dos.

[Wellstone ruled]

10. Here is what the Change Agent will be.

Death of those Workers. History tells us ,when the Bodies pile up,shit changes.

People have to understand,these workers live from pay check to paycheck and support a ton of Relatives because it is their Cultural Nature. When the Mortuary People start turning in the Bills for Burial expense which is required in most states,watch all hell break loose.

And fortunately we have a few Activists who will be on the look out for mass graves much like New York.

[spanone]

11. Fuck OSHA. Fuck the Workers.... What will the union have to say about this?....get it to the courts

[Generic Brad]

14. How is that legal?

Saying it doesn't make it so. He can't waive the rule of the law with a wave of his abnormally little hands and expect it to be reality. The executive branch executes law; it doesn't make it up to suit the executive's whims.

[flotsam]

16. Take it a step further

it wouldn't just shield the owner-they all have liability insurance to a greater or lesser degree. So the state cuts unemployment expenses, the feds can begin collecting payroll taxes again, the owners start making money again,and the insurance megacorporations are shielded from insurance payouts while they and the business owners happily shower some of their "winnings" on the GOP. See: Almost a win-win for everybody....I didn't forget anyone, did I?

[malaise]

17. You nailed it

[safeinOhio]

19. The Bill of Rights and the Seventh Amendment to the Constitution.

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.[3]

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. I presume this means he wants to prevent relatives of dead workers from suing

rather than saying that the federal government will pay the bill of the lawsuit. Because he's an evil fucker.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

22. Upton Sinclair

The jungle comes to mind add in genocide and abuse. Capitalism is inhumane. We as human beings can do better than capitalism.

[malaise]

23. Yep

Been thinking about that classic since last week

[Midnight Writer]

24. Where are our "Liberty or Tyranny" protesters?