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imanamerican63

(13,830 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 08:42 PM Apr 2020

So, the allegations against Biden?

I feel that Trump is some how involved? He can’t get Biden on the Ukraine debacle, so Trump resorts to drumming up allegations to hurt Biden? People are upset with Biden not defending himself? I think he’s doing the right thing and not to say anything now! It would benefit Trump and give fire power against Joe?

I don’t know if the allegations are true and by no means I am defending any actions involving any sexual assault allegations. Wait to what come later down road and we can judge the facts then? Remember this, Trump has had lawsuits against him for multiple sexual assault issues for many years now and look where is now?

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So, the allegations against Biden? (Original Post) imanamerican63 Apr 2020 OP
I choose to totally ignore any such nonsense. FarPoint Apr 2020 #1
So far it sounds more like it's the Bernie or bust crowd Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #2
High-Test Barnyard Product, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #3
Chris Hayes is weighing in on this now. nt spooky3 Apr 2020 #4
Oh I bet he is. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #7
You guessed it! cmeneer Apr 2020 #11
Yes Chris is gleeful being a Bernie bro FloridaBlues Apr 2020 #17
I have a feeling Chris Hayes is going to learn he badly misread the public kcr Apr 2020 #28
If the allegations are true, Biden is STILL 500 times better than that con man. Jeebo Apr 2020 #5
They're not true HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #6
That is my point exactly! imanamerican63 Apr 2020 #8
+1, Thank you. crickets Apr 2020 #23
Chris Hayes just did a hit piece. RandySF Apr 2020 #9
Good imanamerican63 Apr 2020 #10
Good cmeneer Apr 2020 #12
Good that he did a hit piece on Biden? Green Line Apr 2020 #15
That Hayes went after her! imanamerican63 Apr 2020 #19
I think you miss read the post SharonClark Apr 2020 #22
Ronan Farrow PASSED ON HER STORY. Zoonart Apr 2020 #13
Interesting. His judgment is usually reliable. badhair77 Apr 2020 #20
That says something DeminPennswoods Apr 2020 #37
Biden needs to release why she left his office. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #14
It was many years ago...I doubt he had much to do with her. She was an intern. Who cares. And Biden Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #24
Just to be clear ...no he doesn't. She is a liar and has changed her story multiple times. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #25
Just to be clear: this story isn't going away. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #27
Then we will have to live with it;but I think it will in fact go away...she is really unbelievable. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #29
I hope so. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #30
Glad to hear that. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #32
It is just more bullshit and lies. It should not even be post about here. What is the point? Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #31
Maybe but it's now reached the mainstream. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #36
Normally I do believe the women who claim abuse but in this case her story had changed over time she FloridaBlues Apr 2020 #16
That is why I said he shouldn't say anything! imanamerican63 Apr 2020 #18
I think Trumps campaign had planned to "spend" Reade closer to the election. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #21
I don't believe or disbelieve, I look at the allegations and make a determination. The right wing is Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #26
I'm voting Democratic straight down the ballot lunatica Apr 2020 #33
+ struggle4progress Apr 2020 #34
When you wait BGBD Apr 2020 #35

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,367 posts)
2. So far it sounds more like it's the Bernie or bust crowd
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 08:46 PM
Apr 2020

Of course Don Jr. commented about it the other day on Twitter (look it up if you want I'm not linking to it) and was soundly bashed by those who pointed out the many allegations against his dad.

The Magistrate

(95,264 posts)
3. High-Test Barnyard Product, Sir
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 08:49 PM
Apr 2020

Each day there are two or three such expressions of 'concern' put up here. It is getting to be an awfully old wheeze.

The only proper response is to assail, attack, and smear the person peddling the lie. Allow not the least hint of concession there could be any possibility the lie is true, and keep up the assault, being as vicious and unfair as is not just humanly, but demonically possible. Do not bother with mere denial of the charge, attack the person peddling the lie, and anyone biased and craven and sensation-seeking enough to pass the lie on, and keep on doing so no matter what.


"Can't nobody here play this game?"


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."



kcr

(15,320 posts)
28. I have a feeling Chris Hayes is going to learn he badly misread the public
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:36 PM
Apr 2020

This isn't going to be Al Franken 2.0. Totally different circumstances. Even Gillibrand isn't going for it.

Jeebo

(2,028 posts)
5. If the allegations are true, Biden is STILL 500 times better than that con man.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 08:53 PM
Apr 2020

If the allegations are not true, he's 1,000 times better. Whether Biden is 1,000 times better or merely 500 times better, it's a no-brainer, I'm voting for Biden on Nov. 3. More than ever before, I am now a yellow-dog Democrat. If the Democrats nominate a yellow dog, I'll vote for that yellow dog before I'll vote for that orange raccoon who's in the White House now.

-- Ron

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
6. They're not true
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 08:58 PM
Apr 2020

She’s changed her story multiple times. She was tweeting out pro Biden stuff just 18 months ago. Then she started tweeting pro Putin shit. This is a person who is batshit crazy and needs help.

crickets

(25,988 posts)
23. +1, Thank you.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:07 PM
Apr 2020

Would be it helpful if someone just put together a page of links and pointed to it each time this or the "I am so concerned about the dementia rumors!" topic comes up? (In other words, to the inevitable questioning post that has started appearing every single day...)

It's going to be along five months otherwise.

eta re Tara Reade, here it is: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213367525

RandySF

(59,547 posts)
9. Chris Hayes just did a hit piece.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:01 PM
Apr 2020

Totally dismissing the NYT reporters who dug and found nothing supporting the allegations.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
22. I think you miss read the post
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:07 PM
Apr 2020

Hayes said the NYT piece did not clearly state there was no evidence against Biden.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
14. Biden needs to release why she left his office.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:08 PM
Apr 2020

Even if it's through an office manager who let her go and not Biden himself.

Demsrule86

(68,747 posts)
24. It was many years ago...I doubt he had much to do with her. She was an intern. Who cares. And Biden
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:20 PM
Apr 2020

does not need to play this game...she is clearly lying. And Chris Hayes should be ashamed.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
27. Just to be clear: this story isn't going away.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:31 PM
Apr 2020

I have gone on record questioning Tara Reade and her inconsistencies.

But things have changed. At least, this story became more difficult to dismiss when a person came forward, who records indicate was a neighbor or Tara's, stating Tara told her back in the mid-90s exactly what she's claiming now.

That's tough to overlook without finding out some more details that discredits her story. Yes, she's been inconsistent, but she's yet to be caught in an outright lie and if they could prove she left on her own accord, that would unravel any story she has.

Demsrule86

(68,747 posts)
29. Then we will have to live with it;but I think it will in fact go away...she is really unbelievable.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:39 PM
Apr 2020

Only people who can't accept that Joe won the primary give two shits. He will be the nominee.

Demsrule86

(68,747 posts)
31. It is just more bullshit and lies. It should not even be post about here. What is the point?
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:42 PM
Apr 2020

This is a Democratic website. And it is clear that for some reason, some wish to promote negative crap, (pack of lies from Ms. Reade) about our nominee.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
36. Maybe but it's now reached the mainstream.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:00 AM
Apr 2020

I was fine ignoring it when everything was on the fringes of twitter.

But now it's hit the mainstream media and as much as it'd be nice to just ignore it, ignoring it won't necessarily mean it goes away.

FloridaBlues

(4,011 posts)
16. Normally I do believe the women who claim abuse but in this case her story had changed over time she
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:27 PM
Apr 2020

Doesn't seem credible
I read a piece today she has refused to go on fox several times to "tell" her story. Why not go if this is true? Some trouble makers are trying to keep this alive but now she isn't going on tv.
Thoughts?

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
21. I think Trumps campaign had planned to "spend" Reade closer to the election.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:01 PM
Apr 2020

But because of his terrible response to the virus they are hanging on for dear life. I think she was intended to be their “closer.”

Demsrule86

(68,747 posts)
26. I don't believe or disbelieve, I look at the allegations and make a determination. The right wing is
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:23 PM
Apr 2020

going after our side with this shit and it has to stop. Tara Reade is not credible.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
35. When you wait
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:57 PM
Apr 2020

30 years to say somebody did something to you, you're not going to get very many people to believe you. We can argue if that's good or bad, but it is what it is. You're going to be doubted even if you have an otherwise totally believable story. Add to this that Reade is very much not credible based on her constantly changing story, purposefully timed drop, peddling of the story, and preemptive attempts to hire a PR firm just make this a story most people aren't going to buy.

People who are going to believe this story are either the far left folks that are trying to get you to vote Green or the Trump people.

Apart from all of that, I find it completely unbelievable that anyone would be brazen enough to rape someone in the hallway of the Senate AND that nobody would have seen it. The Senate is and has been one of the most secure buildings in the world. Does anyone believe that there is a square inch of that building that isn't under watch from either people or cameras?

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