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brush

(53,776 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:11 PM Apr 2020

Went to the grocery store today and there are still a few people walking around...

without masks. And I'm not talking about just young, twenty-somethings who think they're invincible, there are some 50 and 60-year-old fools foolishly walking around all Alfred E. Newman-like—"what, me worry".

Either they're just zip damn, low-info fools or they've bought the trump hype whole hog. Hard to believe adults came be this stupid.

I'm in Vegas, btw.

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Went to the grocery store today and there are still a few people walking around... (Original Post) brush Apr 2020 OP
they won't let you in a store by me unless you have a mask on nini Apr 2020 #1
Today, Mike De Wine said Ohiogal Apr 2020 #4
Very disappointed. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #28
No.. it's Safety First, DeWine.. how damn hard is it to Cha Apr 2020 #30
We went in a major sporting goods store the other day. Not one other customer was masked up. Baked Potato Apr 2020 #6
Same here. And the employees are wearing masks too. Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 #8
Same here in Los Angeles nini Apr 2020 #29
Of the few stores I've gone to, there's plastic separating you from the check out clerk Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 #35
Same here in RI. Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #31
Starting Tomorrow in Illinois... ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #44
It has been my observation Ohiogal Apr 2020 #2
I have noticed the same. DURHAM D Apr 2020 #16
Yup. Ohiogal Apr 2020 #20
Did weekly shopping today and saw same thing approx 40% not wearing mask FloridaBlues Apr 2020 #3
Scariest thing I saw.. luvs2sing Apr 2020 #5
I've seen these folks also, sometimes I wonder if they really want to have one and cannot afford one secondwind Apr 2020 #7
They are hard to come by, a lot of people resort to making their own. Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 #10
Can't get into a store without a mask and most stores Golden Raisin Apr 2020 #9
Be safe, pls. I left there 12 years ago but still miss NYC. brush Apr 2020 #12
See very few here Kilgore Apr 2020 #11
I'm in Central Florida. Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #13
My folks live in The Villages EarthFirst Apr 2020 #17
I predict the Villages will turn into Florida's first hot spot. Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #19
The Villages heavily lean Republican. Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #33
Yep, the virus can remain suspended for several minutes from people just breathing. brush Apr 2020 #18
Because masks that are imperfectly sealed to your face will result in drawing air in from the edges Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #21
Also leaking it out at the same rate though, right? brush Apr 2020 #24
Possibly. But it will hit the mask before it leaks out. Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #26
And it's worth pointing out that droplet size matters. Igel Apr 2020 #36
That's how it is here in South Carolina, too. GoCubsGo Apr 2020 #23
Same in Denver. JDC Apr 2020 #14
I noticed today that the guys without masks were mostly there for cases of beer! Grasswire2 Apr 2020 #15
At the grocery store, it was mostly men that did not wear masks. Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #22
Fear not. Igel Apr 2020 #37
I have not been out since I went to the field hospital where I had to wear a mask obviously Meowmee Apr 2020 #25
I went to two supermarkets today customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #27
We're all Masked, Gloved, Sanitized, SafeDistancing on Kauai.. this is how we're Doing.. Cha Apr 2020 #32
That's excellent! Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #34
It's amazing me, Totally Tunsie! Cha Apr 2020 #38
That'll do it. Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #40
If so, Kauai's open for business. Igel Apr 2020 #39
Last week in Publix in Clermont Florida I saw something that encapsulates the Fox nation. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #41
Maybe they don't have masks availabel to them PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #42
You really are neing needleddly judgmental obamanut2012 Apr 2020 #43
Please. Ever heard of ordering online delivery, or for curbside pick-up? Or a thing called scarves.. brush Apr 2020 #45

nini

(16,672 posts)
1. they won't let you in a store by me unless you have a mask on
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:12 PM
Apr 2020

I don't get why it's not like that everywhere.

Ohiogal

(31,997 posts)
4. Today, Mike De Wine said
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:18 PM
Apr 2020

That requiring masks is a “step too far” and “government overreach”

Instead we were told it is “strongly suggested”. Although any store can require them or else no entry.

But you know this just gives permission to the yahoos to be yahoos....

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
28. Very disappointed.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:56 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Masks are not a big inconvenience, and we clearly have too many dummies who won’t wear them without being compelled by law.

I’ve been pushing masks long before the CDC made it an official recommendation. Mask-wearing countries have fared much better through this pandemic.

Cha

(297,210 posts)
30. No.. it's Safety First, DeWine.. how damn hard is it to
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:19 PM
Apr 2020

wear a mask while you're in a store practicing Safe Distancing?

It shows you're conscientious, you care about not infecting others.. and a reminder there's a deadly silent, invisible CV out there.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
6. We went in a major sporting goods store the other day. Not one other customer was masked up.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:20 PM
Apr 2020

A couple employees were half assed covered.

Edit: ooops that was supposed to be reply to main post, but same point.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
8. Same here. And the employees are wearing masks too.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:21 PM
Apr 2020

The only ones without masks that I've seen were teenagers - traveling in groups. But I'm in New York and masks are required. There are signs on the doors of most stores and some stores only allow so many customers inside at a time. And anyone without a mask sticks out since everyone else is wearing them.

nini

(16,672 posts)
29. Same here in Los Angeles
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:58 PM
Apr 2020

The cashiers have plexi- glass in front of them too in most spots. That's still a work in progress I think. Also, they only let so many in a store at once. At least the stores I have gone to.

Stay safe there in NY.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
35. Of the few stores I've gone to, there's plastic separating you from the check out clerk
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:35 PM
Apr 2020

And I used the self-check-out at the grocery store, they said that if you bring your reusable bag (elimination of plastic bags became policy in March), you need to pack it yourself. And everyone is wearing masks, it's required in the stores I've visited. It's a bit confusing, since each store has its own protocol (which started with the elimination of single use plastic bags), so I just go to the one store for groceries and one other to get food for my dog and cat. And the pet supply store is the stricter of the two, they close much earlier now and only let 10 shoppers in the store at once - initially, it was only 6!

And stay safe in California! At least our respective governors are leading the nation in safety precautions!

ProfessorGAC

(65,029 posts)
44. Starting Tomorrow in Illinois...
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:05 AM
Apr 2020

...the stores must insist on masks.
I'm seeing what the OP says too. Especially at the indy grocer nearest our house. Less than 50% wearing masks. Less than 20% with gloves.
Our handyman went to Lowe's to buy mulch. They gave him BIG heat over not having a mask.They finally let him go to the garden area, but a manager went and got a 10 pack of wallboarder masks. Told him he had to buy these to get the mulch, and then was told, don't come back without a mask.
At least one store trying be strict.

Ohiogal

(31,997 posts)
2. It has been my observation
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:15 PM
Apr 2020

That the majority of unmasked folks in stores are males in the senior age group.

(I’m a senior myself). ... I always wear one if I have to go out.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
16. I have noticed the same.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:38 PM
Apr 2020

I always figure they are the owners of the pickups in the parking lot with Trump/Pence bumper stickers.

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
5. Scariest thing I saw..
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:20 PM
Apr 2020

Last week at Kroger during geezer hour, there was a woman who clearly looked like she was either in the middle of or had just finished chemotherapy. She had little hair, looked frail and thin, and was leaning on her cart in the middle of the aisle by the checkout lanes, not wearing a mask. I asked her if she was okay, and she assured me she was. I asked if she was in line, and she said no, that I should go ahead. Then I noticed another woman, also without a mask, putting items in this woman’s cart, clearly helping her shop.

After a few minutes, I’m still in line, and I notice this woman and her friend are in line behind me. I asked her if she would like to go ahead since she had really been in line ahead of me, she had nowhere as much in her cart as I did, and, dammit, I wanted her out of that store and safe. She refused. Oh, no, I’m fine, thanks!

Freaked me out for the whole day.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
10. They are hard to come by, a lot of people resort to making their own.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:27 PM
Apr 2020

I found a gas station with some good ones for a reasonable price ($6.99) last week and got one for myself and two people I know who had makeshift ones. And I told the owner that I'd spread the word that he had masks. I haven't seen them any other place though they're required here in New York, not that I went looking, I go to one store, get what I need and get out.

Golden Raisin

(4,608 posts)
9. Can't get into a store without a mask and most stores
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:25 PM
Apr 2020

(not just supermarkets) strictly limit how many customers can enter and be inside the store at a time. I'm in Manhattan, so as the U.S.A. epicenter this makes eminent sense.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
11. See very few here
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:27 PM
Apr 2020

I'm in rural SW WA, and see very few. But in fairness we have had almost zero cases in our county too.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
13. I'm in Central Florida.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:29 PM
Apr 2020

I went to the post office the other day and there was a couple walking out as I was walking in. They looked at me as if I was being foolish taking so much precautions.

And I'll tell you what I hate about those six foot taped marks on the floor in the post office. The guy in front of me did not have a mask on. So each time the line stepped forward, I ended up stepping in his air bubble. Fuck. They need to make these masks mandatory.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
17. My folks live in The Villages
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:38 PM
Apr 2020

Both work in the hospice field as RNs.

The amount of disregard by the general public is appalling according to both of them.

One of the highest density of 55+ citizens in the nation; continuing on as if the entire thing is simply a conspiracy to inconvenience their daily lives.

I worry about my parents daily.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
19. I predict the Villages will turn into Florida's first hot spot.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:41 PM
Apr 2020

I am sure your parents know what they have to do to protect themselves. There will be events organized in the next few months. They just need to avoid them.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
33. The Villages heavily lean Republican.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:27 PM
Apr 2020
https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/florida/the_villages

Politics & Voting in The Villages, Florida
The Political Climate in The Villages, FL is Somewhat conservative.

Sumter County, FL is Somewhat conservative. In Sumter County, FL 29.3% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 68.3% voted Republican, and the remaining 2.4% voted Independent.


Their Lord and Master refuses to wear a mask.

brush

(53,776 posts)
18. Yep, the virus can remain suspended for several minutes from people just breathing.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:39 PM
Apr 2020

What I'm puzzled about is how the health experts say the mask is to protect others, by way of the mask layers, from one's exhalations or coughing, etc. But if the mask protects others from one's own exhalations because of the blocking action of the cloth layers, why wouldn't the layers protect the wearer from others exhalations as well?

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
21. Because masks that are imperfectly sealed to your face will result in drawing air in from the edges
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:42 PM
Apr 2020

of the mask.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
36. And it's worth pointing out that droplet size matters.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:36 PM
Apr 2020

The droplets that come out of your mouth from speaking and coughing loss mass as they fly and fall, and become smaller.

If they escape your mask because they're small, they're not going to be stopped by the other person's.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
23. That's how it is here in South Carolina, too.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:45 PM
Apr 2020

A good 60-70% of the people in most stores are unmasked. Needless to say, I am limiting my shopping trips, and using curbside pick-up when I can. The people here are so stupid, I can't stand it.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
15. I noticed today that the guys without masks were mostly there for cases of beer!
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:35 PM
Apr 2020

FWIW.

And I saw a city bus pull up, passengers get off wearing masks, and another male passenger got off noticeably with a hacking cough. No mask. The driver was masked, with a plexiglass shield as well.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
22. At the grocery store, it was mostly men that did not wear masks.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:44 PM
Apr 2020

And, yes, I saw one sneeze hard and another have a coughing fit.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
37. Fear not.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:37 PM
Apr 2020

In most places the number of positives are 10% or less of the people tested.

Even with 1/3 negative, that means in most places it's still less than 13% of the people who show symptoms.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
25. I have not been out since I went to the field hospital where I had to wear a mask obviously
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:49 PM
Apr 2020

, before that I had not been out since March 20 to go to the doctor. I know it is mandated now to wear a mask in a public place in New York. But I see people out walking with no masks, maybe it is not required while you’re walking your dog etc. I don’t know.

I just got an email from Costco saying that they are reopening to their normal hours soon but it is required that everyone working and shopping wears a mask. I will not be going out since I am contagious with covid right now but I guess if I go out eventually I will see if people are following it or not.

I just wonder what is going to happen when they start reopening everything and if people will actually go out. Is it really worth risking your life to get a haircut, a tattoo, or to go to the mall? I think most people with half a brain are going to say no.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
27. I went to two supermarkets today
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:36 PM
Apr 2020

and while the employees all were wearing masks at both places, only about a third of the customers were.

Cha

(297,210 posts)
32. We're all Masked, Gloved, Sanitized, SafeDistancing on Kauai.. this is how we're Doing..
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:23 PM
Apr 2020
Kauai hasn’t seen a new COVID-19 diagnosis in 15 days. Now, they’re reporting no active cases

HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - For 15 days, Kauai hasn’t seen a single new case of coronavirus. And on Tuesday, a new milestone: the island’s last COVID-19 patient in isolation was allowed to leave the hospital.

That means there are no known active cases on Kauai.

The decline in the threat has many wondering: What now?

Gov. David Ige has extended his stay-at-home order for the state through May 31 — and mandated that county mayors go through him for approval before instituting any changes to the restrictions.

Kauai Mayor Derek Kawakami hasn’t yet indicated how he’d like the island to reopen. But he instituted strict emergency orders early on, including a nighttime curfew, and bristled at the suggestion that Kauai act as a test case for the reboot of the tourism industry.

“As always, we must proceed with cautious optimism,” Kawakami said, in a Facebook update Tuesday.

“There is no doubt that we will see more cases of COVID-19 on Kauai at some point.”

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/04/28/kauai-hasnt-seen-new-covid-diagnosis-days-now-theyre-reporting-no-active-cases/

Cha

(297,210 posts)
38. It's amazing me, Totally Tunsie!
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:40 PM
Apr 2020

The protocol for Visitors now is a 2 week quarantine in their hotel rooms. Breaking the rules for any of us is a $5,000 fine.

StaySafe!

Igel

(35,300 posts)
39. If so, Kauai's open for business.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:40 PM
Apr 2020

To residents.

The borders need to be sealed--anybody that arrives gets quarantined for 2 weeks. Yeah, that's a kill for tourism.

It means Kauai is in a bubble, residents living in fear of contamination and infection from the outside.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
41. Last week in Publix in Clermont Florida I saw something that encapsulates the Fox nation.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:55 PM
Apr 2020

Wearing my class 3 surgical mask with my fishing Buff over it to pull it tighter and insure I’m breathing thru it and not around it.

Headed for the meat rack in the back of the store and not halfway down a one way only isle and I hear someone raging. At like 100 decibels. I’m 50 feet away and can hear him. Talking about Americans being soft and this virus a big hoax and Iran, China and so on. Wondering WTF. Got to the meat counter and see this big guy in his 60s or so raging away at a Publix associate stocking the meat looking like he is biting his tongue. Which I’m sure he was. Went to look for meat and made eye contact with the asshole. But of course he said nothing to me. Just scowled. Probably knew had he addressed me I would have told him to fuck off. Which I would have. My mask would have told him. Plus, I’m a big enough guy in my early 50s.

Just reinforced to me. These people are fucking cowards. And cowards always need to look tough. Dad taught me that when I was 9.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
42. Maybe they don't have masks availabel to them
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 05:29 AM
Apr 2020

and can't figure out how to get them.

It's not as though you can just purchase them at Target.

The only reason I have masks is that My Sister Who Sews has been making them and graciously mailed me six. Alas, they were all too big to fit. Lucky me, I have a friend with a sewing machine who was able to re-sew them so they fit. I of course gave her and her daughter masks.

But they are not they easy to come by these days.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
43. You really are neing needleddly judgmental
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:00 AM
Apr 2020

You do know that many folks with certain conditions CANNOT wear a mask without risk, right? It can actually put them in the hospital or literally even kill them, if they wear it too long. My BIL is one of those. Wearing one can kill him. He has my sister to buy their food and run to the pharmacy, etc., but many people don't have anyone to help them, especially older people.

This is literally no different then seeing someone with an invisible disability park in the handicap space and being snarky to them. Which happens to the same BIL constantly. He has had a COP threaten to arrest him, and he has disabled veteran plates on his car, but because he looks able bodied, people judge him.

So, stop judging these people. You have no idea why they aren't wearing masks. Many, many, MANY, especially older folks, probably have a legitimate reason. Instead, be judgmental of the folks in masks and gloves who touch every damned thing and put it back on the shelves, and who stand six inches from you because they have on a mask.

brush

(53,776 posts)
45. Please. Ever heard of ordering online delivery, or for curbside pick-up? Or a thing called scarves..
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:04 AM
Apr 2020

one can pull out of a drawer and wrap around nose and mouth?

But that's just me and most others on this thread. With 1 million plus infected and 60,000 deaths, why take chances with the virus if you don't have to.

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