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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is the thread I've been waiting for re Reade's complaint.
There were things going on in that time and place that meant a great deal as to how any complaint would have been handled and what would have been filed away where. And her story does not fit.
Sorry its a thread. But its one helluva thread.
Link to tweet
brush
(53,776 posts)Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)hidden it or deleted it. It explained in great detail why this would not be possible...and let's not forget the Packwood scandal was huge during the period Reade claims she made some kind of report all though now I read she changed the story again.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Thank you!
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)The EICHENWALD thread fairly much makes everything else moot: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213381896
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@STEMthebleeding
Ken Starr was the United States solicitor general at the time.
He was chosen to review Sen Packwood's diaries by the Senate.
So at this time, the Senate was already actively looking for any complaints of assault or harassment.
Then in 1994, the Ethics in Government Act passed, which gave the independent council near carte blanche when it came to reviewing documents, security cameras, and visitor logs.
Now when a formal complaint is filed of ANY nature, a copy goes to the issuer, a copy to the defendant, and a copy to goes to OPM as part of an audit trail. Doesn't matter whether it's frivolous or not. That's the policy. For both staffers and Senators, it goes both ways.
This is because persuant to federal records guidelines, the records of personnel do not belong to the Senators they work for. They belong to the government. They transfer, they keep the same record. It just changes who they report to until they no longer work for the Senate.
This outlines it fairly well. This was written in 1984, and clearly outlines what is personal vs agency property when it comes to records. This applies to all government employees.
FOIA Update: OIP Guidance: "Agency Records" vs. "Personal Records"
justice.gov
This process is used along with the ethics review system to ensure that all violations in ethics are not only documented in agency records, but also investigated.
https://govtrack.us/misconduct
Because of the work of Nancy Pelosi, we have the OCE: Office of Congressional Ethics, which establishes the guidelines we now are accustomed to regarding congressional misconduct. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R40760.pdf
Ironically, in 1993, the Joint Committee on Organization of Congress, Ethics Committee was underway in February.
The result? In the Senate at least, more empowerment to victims by allowing non-member inquiry panels to review complaints . https://archives-democrats-rules.house.gov/Archives/jcoc2ac.htm
So let's assume that Biden DID receive a complaint. Sake of argument. Pursuant to the rules set forth in JCOC, an independent panel would've reviewed the claim and determine whether there was evidence to proceed. This would be agency papers per the FOIA guidelines
and therefore a copy would be made for his record, a copy for her records, and a copy for OPM for audit purposes. This would've occurred during a period of time when the Senate just got embarrassed with Packwood's diaries and subsequent ethics hearing.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,956 posts)UTUSN
(70,686 posts)nolabear
(41,960 posts)UTUSN
(70,686 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)good article on it from Balloon Juice.
The Real Purpose and Objectives for the Accusations Against Vice President Biden
Read more: https://www.balloon-juice.com/2020/05/01/the-real-purpose-and-objectives-for-the-accusations-against-vice-president-biden/
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13377888
FM123
(10,053 posts)looking into sexual harassment allegations of fellow senators like Bob Packwood - so wouldn't he have heard about this if it happened? Especially since Reade said she told three senate staffers who worked there. The fact that Moscow Mitch is not shouting from the rooftops "hey, Joe did it" every single day to every single news outlet speaks volumes.