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babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:32 AM May 2020

Perspective.

From a friend~

Perspective.

“Imagine you were born in 1900. On your 14th birthday, World War I starts, and ends on your 18th birthday. 22 million people perish in that war.
Later in the year, a Spanish Flu epidemic hits the planet and runs until your 20th birthday. 50 million people die from it in those two years. Yes, 50 million.
On your 29th birthday, the Great Depression begins. Unemployment hits 25%, the World GDP drops 27%. That runs until you are 33. The country nearly collapses along with the world economy.
When you turn 39, World War II starts. You aren’t even over the hill yet. And don’t try to catch your breath.

On your 41st birthday, the United States is fully pulled into WWII. Between your 39th and 45th birthday, 75 million people perish in the war.
At 50, the Korean War starts. 5 million perish.
At 55 the Vietnam War begins and doesn’t end for 20 years. 4 million people perish in that conflict.
On your 62nd birthday you have the Cuban Missile Crisis, a tipping point in the Cold War. Life on our planet, as we know it, should have ended. Great leaders prevented that from happening.
When you turn 75, the Vietnam War finally ends.
Think of everyone on the planet born in 1900. How do you survive all of that? When you were a kid in 1985 and didn’t think your 85 year old grandparent understood how hard school was. And how mean that kid in your class was. Yet they survived through everything listed above.
Perspective is an amazing art, refined as time goes on, and enlightening like you wouldn’t believe. Let’s try and keep things in perspective."
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Perspective. (Original Post) babylonsister May 2020 OP
Armed snowflakes cant even sit on couches playing shoot-em ups. They're not demanding libraries open Bernardo de La Paz May 2020 #1
Oh my ... Delphinus May 2020 #2
Thank you. Made me think along those lines. My favorite Grandmother was born in empedocles May 2020 #3
My favorite Grandmother was born in 1897... GetRidOfThem May 2020 #4
My frosh college roommates befuddled, asked, 'why do you write to your grandmother??'. empedocles May 2020 #6
you make 100% sense to me! n/t GetRidOfThem May 2020 #25
My aunt married a wonderful man who believed he was born in 1900. TNNurse May 2020 #5
My father and mother were born in 1903 and 1906 respectively. patphil May 2020 #7
My parents were a bit younger than yours LastDemocratInSC May 2020 #19
Wow Pepsidog May 2020 #8
Excellent. My grandparents were born in 1890s. One side didn't have an inside bathroom until 1950s, Hoyt May 2020 #9
When Very Young, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #10
My oldest daughter born in 1991 and born during the time of the first Gulf War. Pepsidog May 2020 #11
yes it is llashram May 2020 #12
Both sets of my grandparents were born in the 1890s. Mom's mother had 12 children and japple May 2020 #13
Mom b 1913, dad b 1908. In early 90s brother and I were marveling over access to internet bobbieinok May 2020 #14
One of my grandmothers was a child who lost her home in the San Francisco earthquake (1906)... Sancho May 2020 #15
It would be impossible to find any 20 year period in human history Thunderbeast May 2020 #16
I too am rooting for the evolved brain; nothing else will work. nt babylonsister May 2020 #24
Well done! NoRoadUntravelled May 2020 #17
good point! subana May 2020 #18
4 million in Vietnam? progressoid May 2020 #20
Including Vietnamese? Quite possible. babylonsister May 2020 #22
I often think of my dearest departed and what they live love laugh May 2020 #21
my granddad served in WWI and WWII Skittles May 2020 #23
Something to think about fer shur ---what born in 1900 turned out to mean! bobbieinok Jul 2020 #26

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. Thank you. Made me think along those lines. My favorite Grandmother was born in
Sun May 3, 2020, 09:52 AM
May 2020

1901.

All four grandparents, and my parents all agreed, repeatedly, - 'life is tough'.

[Seems to be a lot of dimensions to the phrase - 'life is tough']

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. My frosh college roommates befuddled, asked, 'why do you write to your grandmother??'.
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:23 AM
May 2020

I didn't know why really, I just did. Over time, I figured out why.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
5. My aunt married a wonderful man who believed he was born in 1900.
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:20 AM
May 2020

He liked being the same age as the year. Bedridden at 98, his family member came to visit and brought a family Bible. It said he was born in 1899. I would not have told him, but they did.

He was a delight as was my aunt. She lived until she was 95. She was my father's sister, he died at 50.

patphil

(6,172 posts)
7. My father and mother were born in 1903 and 1906 respectively.
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:30 AM
May 2020

They went through all that. Fortunately, Dad was too young for WW1, and too old for WW2.
One thing I do remember while growing up in the 50's was that they seldom threw things away. There was always the thought that they would need it again some day.

Yes, they endured tremendous challenges throughout their lives, and yet they had a family and raised 4 children. Life was sometimes a bit tough and money was tight, but in the end we all made it through.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
19. My parents were a bit younger than yours
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:07 PM
May 2020

But those times left a mark on them. My parents didn't have access to writing paper during their school years during the depression. But they had a way of getting it. They would open junk mail and if the letter was printed on just one side they would iron out the folds and write on the back side. They did this until the died in their 90s.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. Excellent. My grandparents were born in 1890s. One side didn't have an inside bathroom until 1950s,
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:40 AM
May 2020

my granddad fought in WWI, had to move looking for work during depression, etc.

Didn't really know my paternal-grandparents, but I'm sure it was much the same as far as what they went through. They were highly educated, my granddad worked for the government in a large city. So, things were a little different. My parents often spoke of Depression as children, WWII, family deaths/illness due to lack of modern medicine, etc.

Yeah, while this is tough -- and there is no reason to make it worse by trying to rush back -- it helps to keep it in perspective.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
10. When Very Young, Ma'am
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:43 AM
May 2020

My daughter sort of adopted a neighbor lady as a grandma. She was born around 1910 in Belgium, and came over here after the Second World War. Not a lot of talk, mind, but she liked the child playing near her, and it was a marvel to me to think of what she had seen and been alive through, both at my daughter's age and at pretty near my own, then. Even beyond being born into a world of horse drawn wagons and dog carts, and living into an era of jet-liners and space rockets....

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
11. My oldest daughter born in 1991 and born during the time of the first Gulf War.
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:53 AM
May 2020

She was in grade school during 9-11 and then the second Gulf War. Then in 2008 we had the Great Recession then the current pandemic. Add to that the era of school shootings and while not as devastating as someone born in 1900 her generation has seen quite a bit. But they have also witnessed the digital era which which may or may not be a good thing. Time will tell.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
12. yes it is
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:53 AM
May 2020

and yes let's try. The media, the entitled white, rich people have, the entitled gun-toting asshats threatening strong women who just happen to be women trying to keep Michiganders and Americans safe don't have perspective in this era of trump. Perspective is lost among blindly loyal conservatives in our Senate and House. It is a very dangerous and increasingly lethal game trumpers are playing out. I had to deal with all this starting with Korea. My father was t Chosin Reservoir and PTSD was seen as a weakness then. Vietnam? My time in the service, 13 months there at a base camp down the street from a Cobra, Huey landing, refuelling, rearming, maintenance facility. And now this clown called a POTUS.

Thank you for perspective

japple

(9,823 posts)
13. Both sets of my grandparents were born in the 1890s. Mom's mother had 12 children and
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:54 AM
May 2020

Dad's mother had 10. They were farming familys; one grew cotton on their own land in Georgia and the other were sharecroppers in Texas. They were all hard working, thrifty, dependable and good hearted people. They would not have a bit of trouble understanding the need to for us to keep our distance, wear masks, and try to keep hands clean, esp. after seeing family members die of something that was, in their day, unpreventable illnesses like diptheria, tetanus, typhoid, influenza, childbirth and on and on.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
14. Mom b 1913, dad b 1908. In early 90s brother and I were marveling over access to internet
Sun May 3, 2020, 10:58 AM
May 2020

Mom quietly said 'you do realize I can remember when my uncles brought our 1st crystal radio to the house and got it started.'

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
15. One of my grandmothers was a child who lost her home in the San Francisco earthquake (1906)...
Sun May 3, 2020, 11:08 AM
May 2020

and at 18 ran away from home in CA and went as far as the train would go to end up in Savannah, GA. She was also a single parent (my mother) born during the depression.

The women of that generation fought for education; my grandmother finished HS, but her father refused to let her attend college. My grandmother insisted that her daughters went to college. She was politically active her whole life (suffrage, women candidates, equal pay). She also insisted on working, in defiance of her husband of the time. The societal battles were every bit as difficult as the world wars.

I always admired my grandmother's resilience and positive view of life.

Thanks for the perspective.





Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
16. It would be impossible to find any 20 year period in human history
Sun May 3, 2020, 11:53 AM
May 2020

not marred by carnage, dislocation, and plagues.

Sadly, it is the human condition.

Our primitive brain stem drives us to tribalism and conquest just as it drives us to breathe, eat, and mate.

The evolution of a cerebral cortex counters and overcomes the destructive nature of some of these instincts. It is why most of us don't kill or rape our neighbors.

Civilised man explained this conflict in allegory; Good vs. Evil, God vs. The Devil.

Usually, the frontal lobes win....Sometimes, not so much. We once resigned to the terrible realities of plague and starvation. Now, we try to intervene, but not always with success.

Life is not guaranteed to give us the gifts of food, shelter, and health. The core lesson that is burned into the cerebral cortex is that we all do better when we treat each other well.

I am rooting for the evolved brain, but I know that within all of us are instincts that, left unfettered, will lead us to "The Dark Side"

subana

(586 posts)
18. good point!
Sun May 3, 2020, 12:24 PM
May 2020

& with other epidemics that occurred so long ago, we forget that at that time air travel was not available. With air travel it makes disease much easier to spread when someone can travel from one part of the world to another in only a few hours!

I remember during the Cuban missile crisis. When President Kennedy made that announcement, we all thought we were going to die & that it most likely would occur the next day! And it was mostly because JFK was such an intelligent man along with his brother Bobby, that the world didn't end or propel us into a nuclear war!!

We can't say that now. Even though Fauci seems very intelligent & reasonable, we can't say the same about others in the top levels of govt!!

live love laugh

(13,104 posts)
21. I often think of my dearest departed and what they
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:51 PM
May 2020

would think of the world today—the social dissonance, the distracted generation, the media propaganda and double speak...

If such a thing were possible I think it would be life changing to see their reactions.

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