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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:02 AM May 2020

This seems insane: Carnival to begin cruises again from Florida and Texas on Aug. 1st





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JUST IN: Carnival Cruise Line says it will begin to phase-in cruises again starting August 1 with eight of its ships leaving from Miami, Port Canaveral and Galveston.
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This seems insane: Carnival to begin cruises again from Florida and Texas on Aug. 1st (Original Post) Mrs. Overall May 2020 OP
Who would be stupid enough to go on a cruise now? nycbos May 2020 #1
+100. I'm waiting to be denied visas from Australia and New sinkingfeeling May 2020 #5
You Really Have To Ask That? sfstaxprep May 2020 #14
No it doesn't brooklynite May 2020 #2
I know a Cruise Planner who's been taking bookings all along. maxsolomon May 2020 #20
Will be interesting to see where they'll be allowed to dock. Ace Rothstein May 2020 #3
Insanity defines the Polly Hennessey May 2020 #4
Why, if only there were some law against endangering public safety...oh, wait... abqtommy May 2020 #6
They got that big subsidy, have to do something. empedocles May 2020 #7
they should have gotten a subsidy to stop their business and pay their workers Voltaire2 May 2020 #9
No, they shouldn't. They are not registered Phoenix61 May 2020 #19
It is insane. Voltaire2 May 2020 #8
Bring out your dead nycbos May 2020 #10
Carnival Cruise Lines should just repurpose the USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy. sop May 2020 #11
Don't forget the "burial at sea option" to complete that once in a lifetime experience. nt Cognitive_Resonance May 2020 #13
They are all one way trips Renew Deal May 2020 #12
They can offer these cruises but I'm not boarding until Vogon_Glory May 2020 #15
It will never be 100% safe. There is always a risk on a large cruise ship. maxsolomon May 2020 #21
I suspect that there will still be a cruise industry BUT Vogon_Glory May 2020 #22
And here I thought JustAnotherGen May 2020 #16
It's the death boat... exciting and new! Initech May 2020 #17
*sigh* Proud Liberal Dem May 2020 #18
Insane - yip, the people who get on those ships and the poor crew who have to work on them! UTUSN May 2020 #23
"the poor crew who have to work on them"-I think you mean "choose to work on them" nt EX500rider May 2020 #24
That you got it means I successfully communicated the implication. However, UTUSN May 2020 #25

sinkingfeeling

(51,454 posts)
5. +100. I'm waiting to be denied visas from Australia and New
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:17 AM
May 2020

Zealand in October. I think those countries will be fine, but will deny Americans entry based on our stupid response to Covid-19.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
2. No it doesn't
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:04 AM
May 2020

Unless you're prepared to say that lockdowns will continue through the entire summer (which would have huge economic consequences) it's reasonable for vacation entities to make advance plans for the summer.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
20. I know a Cruise Planner who's been taking bookings all along.
Mon May 4, 2020, 12:52 PM
May 2020

In between scrambling to get cruisers flights home from hither and yon (i.e. Perth).

A lot of people have a lot of money and they aren't going to live much longer. Why not book? If it gets cancelled, you get refunded.

If you don't want to take the risk, don't go.

Ace Rothstein

(3,161 posts)
3. Will be interesting to see where they'll be allowed to dock.
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:07 AM
May 2020

Might not be many ports willing to accept them. However many of the places that the ships dock rely on tourism to pay the bills.

Polly Hennessey

(6,794 posts)
4. Insanity defines the
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:11 AM
May 2020

really stupid people who willingly take the cruises then whine and whimper when they get sick. Cruise ships are floating Petri dishes. Ugh!

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
7. They got that big subsidy, have to do something.
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:22 AM
May 2020

Hope they have to, at least initially, hire some Americans

Voltaire2

(13,023 posts)
9. they should have gotten a subsidy to stop their business and pay their workers
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:27 AM
May 2020

Sailing giant petri dishes of assorted viral and bacterial agents around the world is idiotic.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
19. No, they shouldn't. They are not registered
Mon May 4, 2020, 12:39 PM
May 2020

in the US to avoid paying US taxes. Why should they get US tax payer money?

Voltaire2

(13,023 posts)
8. It is insane.
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:26 AM
May 2020

We are going to blow past 100K dead. It is likely that we will become the textbook case study on How Not To Manage A Pandemic.

It is now up to each of us to do whatever we can to keep safe. The federal government has abandoned any responsibility for a coordinated national program, and the administration is actively sabatoging state governments trying to implement rational programs.

We are, quite simply, fucked.

sop

(10,167 posts)
11. Carnival Cruise Lines should just repurpose the USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy.
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:32 AM
May 2020

Call them "Hospital Cruise Ships." Put in a couple of swimming pools, a swanky nightclub and some shuffleboard courts, while leaving all the medical facilities in place. It should make quarantining and treating all the sick and dying passengers much easier.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
12. They are all one way trips
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:34 AM
May 2020

I wouldn't go, but if people want to go, let them. It is their choice to die in a floating tin can.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
15. They can offer these cruises but I'm not boarding until
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:46 AM
May 2020

it’s safe again. I fear that August 1st is much too soon from a US port.

And if I was in charge of clearing passengers at a European port of embarcation, I wouldn’t let any Americans board without prior clearance from their physician and dockside medical tests.

I fear that it won’t be safe to cruise from a US port until late spring next year.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
21. It will never be 100% safe. There is always a risk on a large cruise ship.
Mon May 4, 2020, 12:55 PM
May 2020

No departures until June 2021 will kill the industry.

I won't be that upset, but a lot of people will be out of work.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
22. I suspect that there will still be a cruise industry BUT
Mon May 4, 2020, 01:15 PM
May 2020

It’s going to be a long while before many of the ships that sailed out of US ports will be back. They’ll redeploy to Europe, Asia, the Antipodes, and—possibly—those Caribbean ports where the Republican Insane Clown Posse won’t dictate boarding procedures.

I can imagine warm-water cruises late next fall out of the Bahamas, Barbados, Possibly out of some of the English-speaking islands, and possibly the Dutch West Indies.

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
25. That you got it means I successfully communicated the implication. However,
Mon May 4, 2020, 01:32 PM
May 2020

argumentative people, of whom I am not one, might make a case that people with certain job skills and financial situations "have to" take certain types of work not of their preferred choosing.






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