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Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:24 PM May 2020

How would republicans act if Black Plague came back?

Would they be marching on the streets demanding their rights to sleep with fleas? Would they be willing take their chances with their families? Would they think that guns will scare away the disease?

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BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
5. You beat me to it.
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:28 PM
May 2020

Actually they are so stoooopid they probably would think it only hit black people and they would be thrilled.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
9. Upon which the name would be changed.
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:33 PM
May 2020

Because it has to be racist.

New name:

BID-Yep-1

Bubo-inducing disease-yersinia pestis-1.

YEPBAD-20, for yersinia-pestis-bacterial-disease-2020. Just happens to sound like "yep, bad".

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
6. The black plague is actually still around
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:29 PM
May 2020

But it is a bacteria and not a virus so there are treatments for it.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
10. Y. pestis is endemic in the Southwest US
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:43 PM
May 2020

it got into the California rodent population in the early 1900s. Luckily, there's treatment available if it's caught early.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
11. They would, FIRST and foremost, blame gay people, then
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:47 PM
May 2020

they would do exactly what they are doing right now anyhow.

What gets me is how many of them are obsessed with "prepping" and have basements full of food that keeps for 25+ years, more TP than the rest of us will ever see in one place again, and ammo and weapons enough to equip a medium sized army.

So, why aren't they home proving how self reliant they are? Why aren't they "bugging out?" Instead, they are at state capitols pitching temper tantrums and carrying around their blankets (guns) like soiled (I almost did not come back and change this typo, I meant to type spoiled, but soiled works too) toddlers.

I think the "bug out" industry has been exposed since seeing how they are acting right now. So much for all that crap they have been selling to people for "self reliance" in case TSHTF.

I know there are a few on the left who do the "prepper" thing too, but there are far too many right wingers in that movement who make a big deal out of being self sufficient and not looking to the big bad government to help them. So, why are the right wing, pull yourself up by your own bootstraps types crowding state capitals and marching around with their blankies and pitching temper tantrums and whining so much right now?

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
12. Bubonic plague hit San Francisco from 1900 to 1904. Business interests, supported by
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:48 PM
May 2020

Republicans, fought the idea of quarantine, because the economy depended on tourism and trade, so the presence of plague was covered up.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/04/bubonic-plague-first-struck-america-officials-tried-cover-up/

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Black Death comes to America

What was called the Black Death in medieval times was then raging across Asia. Millions had died, and U.S. public health officials had long feared that it could make its way across the Pacific to West Coast ports. The highly infectious disease, typically carried by rodents, was usually fatal.

But then, two days after Gin’s body was found, the San Francisco Chronicle published a front-page story with the headline, “Plague Fake is Part of a Plot to Plunder.” Local businessmen feared that news of a plague outbreak would ravage the economy, and they hotly disputed the claim by the city’s Board of Health. Under their pressure, the city lifted the quarantine the next day. The newspaper celebrated the decision, complaining that it had caused “vast injury to business.”

Another local publication, the Bulletin, at the same time insisted that plague was, in any case, less dangerous than “measles, mumps, or any of the common ills we know of.” The newspaper added with alarm that news of the plague was diverting both tourists and cargo from the bustling port.

snip


Twenty years ago I wrote an article about plague for one of my websites, in case you're interested:

http://salvoblue.homestead.com/plague.html

"Bubonic Plague: Yesterday's Scourge--and Tomorrow's?"

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
14. BTW, here are some interesting points from my article,linked in the previouspost:
Mon May 4, 2020, 10:55 PM
May 2020
snip

The first pandemic occurred during the sixth century a.d., during the reign of the Emperor Justinian. The second pandemic occurred during the Middle Ages--it is the one we call the Black Death. The third pandemic lasted until 1959. Many of you who are reading this article don't realize it, but you are a survivor of the third great bubonic plague pandemic, which killed far more people--over thirteen million!--than the other two pandemics combined.

In 1894 a few cases of plague were documented in Canton, and from there it spread to Hong Kong. Although the initial outbreak was relatively small, the disease was quickly carried to many parts of the world by ocean-going vessels. In its westward course, the plague reached India, and then Africa and Europe (especially Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Great Britain). It also spread eastward to the Philippines, Australia, Japan, Hawaii, and the Pacific coasts of North and South America.


PLAGUE IN THE UNITED STATES

Human plague was diagnosed for the first time in the United States in 1900, at San Francisco, and shown to be present among rats in that city in 1902. At first business interests, in collusion with conservative politicians in both the city and the state, resisted official acknowledgment of plague as well as all official efforts to control its spread. This refusal to address the problem for fear of hurting business led to a far worse outbreak than would otherwise have occurred. Eventually, other states quarantined California, and forced them to deal with the plague after all.

Many of the deaths during the third pandemic were concentrated in the less developed parts of the world, especially in India between 1898 and 1928. There were several hundred plague deaths in the United States during the last century, including several in the 1990s.

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DBoon

(22,363 posts)
17. Pogroms against the current unpopular minority
Mon May 4, 2020, 11:16 PM
May 2020

Jews were burned to death by the thousands in 14th century Europe, as they were believed to have brought the plague.

Expect whatever minority is out of favor at the time to meet with a similar fate - immigrants, Blacks, gays, etc.

Demovictory9

(32,454 posts)
18. McConnell would use large death rate as opportunity to stuff courts, GOP would block vote by mail
Mon May 4, 2020, 11:25 PM
May 2020

they would behave the same

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
19. Bubonic Plague is endemic to New Mexico, where I live.
Mon May 4, 2020, 11:29 PM
May 2020

Most years there are a handful of cases. Doctors here are aware of it and usually get the people on antibiotics quickly enough. Every so often a an out of state visitor manages to contract it, and back home, wherever that might be, the doctors understandably don't begin to think Plague. Often with sad consequences.

There's a science fiction thing every year in Albuquerque called Bubonicon. As I tell people, the name means exactly what you think it means.

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