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When trump's time comes to an end January 20, 2021, all those who worked for him and flaunted the laws, broke the constitution and rewrote anything they didn't like that was legal, caused Americans and Immigrants tremendous hardships and suffering, loss of property, a future or even life...
When the new Democratic Senate, New Democratic President and Re-elected Democratic House hold hearings about the atrocities of ALL those who worked for trump, were related to him, and those in his administration and their foreign accomplices...
When they all are subpoenaed to tell all they did yet scream and holler they have their RIGHTS under law (and they will - bet your last dollar on it) and they won't have to say anything...
When they've touted the Fifth Amendment as their savior but ignored the other 26...
remember...
Waterboarding is effective...just ask Bush, Chaney, Yoo, et al. And I'm not even sure it's illegal...yet.
We need to forget the rule of law, just like they did.
We can NOT afford to forget this.
And to those of you holier-than-me, pseudo Democrats who feel you're too good to accept a situation like that because YOU don't want to sink to a lower level, who have the attitude that thinks they are so bipartisan and pure and fair and let's not act like them, that is the reason we are here after 40 years of Republican Greed and Corruption.
No exoneration for those who caused this as was done 12 years ago. No "we must look forward, not backward" BS.
No "[N]othing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past
we must resist the forces that divide us, and instead come together on behalf of our common future."
That is exactly why our current situation exists. Yeah, it was noble, if you say so. But short-sighted. And ineffective. And history (and many of us) will judge it the biggest mistake of the early 21st Century. We can not let that attitude happen again. Conditions must be made to insure those would try to repeat this must be made to understand what the consequences will be. And those consequences must be extreme if we're to prevent another occurrence.
Just like you all did since St. Ronnie, quietly watching and quietly being so Susan Collins concerned, you don't have to watch. We won't care.
Maybe we can use those cages like the ones in Texas til they feel like talking? Or deport them to third world counties with a new suit and ten dollar bill!
I have no fucks to give concerning any treatment (inhumane or not) for those who have denied everyone else's human rights and especially the way they treated migrant children and the poor.
We've spent our "40 years in the Desert."
If these last years haven't affected you adversely, you're fortunate.
For those who of us who have suffered under this POS, it's payback time.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)lame54
(35,287 posts)Sounds great, but some of the things that you imply would be overturned by the Courts. But definitely, we need to establish within the DOJ a large Special Prosecutors Office to chase down every lead related by abuses from Trump, his family, and his sycophants.
moonseller66
(430 posts)but by then, we'll have used a number of "moist cloths!"
And of course, we'll say we misspoke, apologised or whatever for the media.