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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Tue May 5, 2020, 03:52 PM May 2020

Video released that appears to show Ahmaud Arbery being shot to death by white vigilantes *GRAPHIC*



David Begnaud ✔@DavidBegnaud

NEWS: Graphic video appears to show Ahmaud Arbery, 25 of GA., whose family says he was out for a run, confronted by 2 men who shot him dead saying they thought he was a burglar. A prosecutor wants a grand jury to decide whether the men should be charged.

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2:21 PM - May 5, 2020


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Video released that appears to show Ahmaud Arbery being shot to death by white vigilantes *GRAPHIC* (Original Post) Dennis Donovan May 2020 OP
I ordinarily do not comment on videos, but if I were in any normal prosecutor's office, mahatmakanejeeves May 2020 #1
These two racist numbskulls are walking free, tra-la-la greenjar_01 May 2020 #2
Do you honestly think that there are going to be multiple DUers come out on here in support of Celerity May 2020 #11
OK greenjar_01 May 2020 #12
if I see any try and defend these murderous bastards, I will be the first to blast off Celerity May 2020 #14
Not OK. Perhaps you thought you were Hortensis May 2020 #24
I know exactly what forum I'm on greenjar_01 May 2020 #26
Then I have to say I didn't see what you claim to be common here. Hortensis May 2020 #32
I appreciate your perspective greenjar_01 May 2020 #33
There were Zimmerman defenders here JonLP24 May 2020 #34
Now there's a Disaffected May 2020 #17
I think you need to look up the definition of non sequitur Celerity May 2020 #18
Sorry, I misjudged. Disaffected May 2020 #25
no problem! Celerity May 2020 #27
That is brutal.💔 dewsgirl May 2020 #3
An armed man moves to obstruct his path exboyfil May 2020 #4
Conservative Lawyers Group arriving imminently greenjar_01 May 2020 #5
I don't care what they THOUGHT. They need to be charged with Murder 1. cayugafalls May 2020 #6
How can that be anything else other than murder? Jarqui May 2020 #7
Infuriating! ecstatic May 2020 #8
I see two men who were just looking for an opportunity to kill a black person. jalan48 May 2020 #9
That is horrifying Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #10
This is murder jacobfloyd May 2020 #13
Oh my god. That is out and out murder. crickets May 2020 #15
Clear case of murder peggysue2 May 2020 #16
McMichael: "I'm out here at Satilla Shores and there's a black man running down the street." Demovictory9 May 2020 #19
Just like that asshole Zimmerman. Caliman73 May 2020 #31
Can I load up and inject the drugs at the execution? roamer65 May 2020 #20
Murder. JDC May 2020 #21
the killers like to kill Demovictory9 May 2020 #22
Gregory McMichael making up lies as he went along. bad luck for him, there was video Demovictory9 May 2020 #23
Execute him, GA. roamer65 May 2020 #28
The prosecutor undoubtedly expects a grand jury of their peers Hortensis May 2020 #29
Murderers. nt PufPuf23 May 2020 #30

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
1. I ordinarily do not comment on videos, but if I were in any normal prosecutor's office,
Tue May 5, 2020, 03:55 PM
May 2020

I'd be thinking that the video supported charging the assailants with murder in the first degree.

I'm not sure what possessed these guys to film themselves doing this.

They'd better lawyer up.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
2. These two racist numbskulls are walking free, tra-la-la
Tue May 5, 2020, 03:55 PM
May 2020

Remember, there were many Zimmerman supporters here as well. They're going to come out of the woodwork supporting these two shitheel murderers.

The courage of that young man, fighting for his life against a coward with a gun. Fuck.

Celerity

(43,356 posts)
11. Do you honestly think that there are going to be multiple DUers come out on here in support of
Tue May 5, 2020, 04:47 PM
May 2020

these two murderous thugs?

I think you are dead wrong, and I am hard pressed for a justifiable reason for you to make such a bomb-toss of a statement.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Not OK. Perhaps you thought you were
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:36 PM
May 2020

on a different forum. Is that it? The kind where some of the LW-RW populist types spout some of the white power garbage they're not allowed to here? Admit some do, or did!, come to rant about the need to destroy the ACA and replace it with more for less, just as they do on trumpster forums.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Then I have to say I didn't see what you claim to be common here.
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:54 PM
May 2020

Even at their worst, when their candidate had some victories, the few aggressive white male populists who came here did not push that kind of racial hostility as you imply. They pushed anti-Democratic, anti-democracy, anti-ACA hostility. And those who did touch the third rail of white-on-black racism were gotten rid of.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
33. I appreciate your perspective
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:57 PM
May 2020

Time will tell. I'll bookmark this to reply when (not if) I see it.

Cheers!

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
34. There were Zimmerman defenders here
Wed May 6, 2020, 07:48 PM
May 2020

The are often defenders when racist incidents are open to interpretation. They weren't involved in the left-centrist fights at DU. Most of them hung out in the gun forum. I have been here since 2008.

Celerity

(43,356 posts)
18. I think you need to look up the definition of non sequitur
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:21 PM
May 2020

What I asked was completely germane to what the poster I replied to said.

them

Remember, there were many Zimmerman supporters here as well. They're going to come out of the woodwork supporting these two shitheel murderers.

me

Do you honestly think that there are going to be multiple DUers come out on here in support of these two murderous thugs?

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
25. Sorry, I misjudged.
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:37 PM
May 2020

I took the "...Zimmerman supporters 'here as well'." to refer to the locale where the murder took place rather than DU.

If so, I too would be v surprised to see any significant support expressed here for those loathsome dirt-bags.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
4. An armed man moves to obstruct his path
Tue May 5, 2020, 03:57 PM
May 2020

after driving up with his buddies, also armed.

How is this not out and out murder? Brandishing itself is an overt act. He would have been justified in shooting at them if he had a gun.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
5. Conservative Lawyers Group arriving imminently
Tue May 5, 2020, 03:58 PM
May 2020

To tell us how the young man out for a run was in the wrong.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
6. I don't care what they THOUGHT. They need to be charged with Murder 1.
Tue May 5, 2020, 04:06 PM
May 2020

You don't get to play Judge, Jury and Executioner. That is not how it works.

Fuck them. They killed him in cold blood. They were stopped and waiting for him.

I need to step away from the PC...my blood is boiling and I am crying.

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
7. How can that be anything else other than murder?
Tue May 5, 2020, 04:10 PM
May 2020

How is it even a question?

It's brutal.

They did not have to kill him - even if they thought he was a burglar.
He was not armed. They were.
They had no legal excuse or authority to kill him.

crickets

(25,979 posts)
15. Oh my god. That is out and out murder.
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:07 PM
May 2020

We're back to lynching. This is trump's America and it cannot be allowed to stand.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
16. Clear case of murder
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:13 PM
May 2020

Caught on video. Both of these low-lifes should be hung up by their ankles. And if a grand jury can't find cause to charge these two???

Willful blindness.

And no, I don't buy the story that they thought Aubery was a burglar. Unless we now sanction mindless vigilantism. A convenient excuse pressed against an inconvenient, chilling video.

Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
19. McMichael: "I'm out here at Satilla Shores and there's a black man running down the street."
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:24 PM
May 2020

The shooter’s father, former District Attorney investigator Greg McMichael, who was with his son at the time, called 911 at 1:08 p.m.

McMichael: “I’m out here at Satilla Shores and there’s a black man running down the street."

911 dispatcher: “I just need to know what he was doing wrong, was he just on the premises and not supposed to be?”

McMichael: “And he’s been caught on the camera a bunch before at night. It’s an ongoing thing out here.”

McMichael later told police he suspected that Arbery was burglarizing houses under construction at in the Brunswick neighborhood.

According to the police report, McMichael was calling called for his son, Travis, who “grabbed his shotgun because they didn’t know if the male was armed or not.”

Police said the elder McMichael armed himself with his .357 handgun and the two followed Arbery for two blocks before, according to the report, McMichael shouted: “Stop, stop we want to talk to you.” They pulled up next to him and police said the former investigator’s son “exited the truck with a shotgun.”

McMichael told police Arbery then “violently attacked his son, and the two men started fighting over the shotgun, Travis McMichael fired two shots, killing Arbery. Police said the McMichaels rolled Arbery over to see if he a weapon before. No weapon was found.


https://www.news4jax.com/news/georgia/2020/04/30/black-man-running-through-brunswick-neighborhood-shot-killed/

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
31. Just like that asshole Zimmerman.
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:42 PM
May 2020

911 Dispatch said, "No, don't get out of the car and go after him..." The dispatcher here said, "I just need to know what he is doing wrong.."

The answer to both: "Well, he's black and he is walking around breathing and stuff, and we can't abide by that".

How the hell did they know it was the same person (IF there was actually a person) burglarizing homes? Did they have him under surveillance?

At least Murder 2 if not Murder 1.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
20. Can I load up and inject the drugs at the execution?
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:24 PM
May 2020

I would very much like to do it. These 2 murderers deserve to die.

I volunteer.

Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
23. Gregory McMichael making up lies as he went along. bad luck for him, there was video
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:33 PM
May 2020

Attorney Lee Merritt, who is representing the family, told CNN Sunday "the decision to rely on the citizen's arrest statute is really a recent invention, prior to that they just simply said it was self defense." Merritt says now the men are trying to use the law to say they were trying to stop a crime.
"According to that law, you actually have to be observing the crime or be in the immediate knowledge of the crime," Merritt said. "The only thing they have ever said is ... that Ahmaud stopped by a house that was under construction and he looked through the window. We don't know if that happened or not, but even if that did happen that is not a felony that would invoke the citizen's arrest statute that would make this allowable."
'We expect action this week'
After the shooting, Gregory McMichael told police he saw the same man "the other night" and that he stuck his hand down his pants on that occasion, leading McMichael to believe he was armed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/ahmaud-arbery-jogging-georgia-shooting/index.html

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. The prosecutor undoubtedly expects a grand jury of their peers
Tue May 5, 2020, 05:40 PM
May 2020

to recommend prosecution. A way of handling a racially explosive and (shocking that it should be so) politically divisive murder that's gone national.

I just looked. This little census-designated crossroads is 90% white in spite of being in south rural GA just north of the black belt. Apparently a white nest on the periphery of nearby larger Hazelhurst, which is nearly 30% black and 8% Hispanic.

I always snoop residential construction I walk by. Such a horrible tragedy.

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